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 Post subject: Status of P70 Coaches used on Toppenish, WA Excursions?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:38 pm 

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Up to the end of 2005, the Toppenish Simcoe & Western Railroad operated excursions from Toppenish, WA, in conjunction with the Northern Pacific Railroad Museum in Toppenish. This archived website has some additional information about these excursions and the circumstances surrounding their ending.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060130034 ... g/TSWR.htm

These P70 coaches seem to be camera shy; this is the best photo I have been able to find: https://www.berail.be/usa/alco_images/tsw_01.jpg

Does anyone know where these cars moved to and if they are still extant? Any and all information is welcome. 


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 Post subject: Re: Status of P70 Coaches used on Toppenish, WA Excursions?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:22 pm 

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I'm going on circumstantial evidence, but I believe these two cars were owned by John Birmingham and are now stored in Hudson, Colorado. His Great Western 2-8-0 no. 51 operated at Toppenish for a few years, pulling these two P70s, and a post in the Surviving Passenger Cars facebook page shows at least one P70 in Hudson in 2022. These two cars may have come from the St. Johnsbury & Lamoille County Railroad, which had a pair of P70s that apparently wandered west.

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4313546

A google aerial view of Hudson, Colorado, shows a shop and transload facility (Hudson Terminal Railroad) with what appears to be a dozen or so passenger cars on site.

- Alan Maples


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 Post subject: Re: Status of P70 Coaches used on Toppenish, WA Excursions?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:05 pm 

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Alan,

Thank you for the information! There is a thread about the equipment owned by the late John Birmingham and the Boulder Scientific Co. on RYPN; however, the P70s aren't mentioned. viewtopic.php?t=43086

This is an interesting group of passenger cars and freight cars that is documented only by distant photographs.


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 Post subject: Re: Status of P70 Coaches used on Toppenish, WA Excursions?
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 Post subject: Re: Status of P70 Coaches used on Toppenish, WA Excursions?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:03 am 

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This is one of the locations where equipment owned by the late John Birmingham is being stored. However these aren't P70 coaches. The green coach was built for the Missouri Kansas Texas and last operated on the Santa Fe Southern. The identities of the cars in oxide red paint can be found here: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsList.aspx?id=CLPX

... And on the surviving Pullman cars thread on RYPN.

This photo of Great Western 2-8-0 51 shows that some passenger cars are stored inside: https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.ph ... msg-347519


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 Post subject: Re: Status of P70 Coaches used on Toppenish, WA Excursions?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:44 am 

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We got a winner!

The photographer who made this image (in 2022): https://www.railpictures.net/photo/801468/ was focused on freshly painted RS4TC, however in the background is a P70 with CLPX reporting marks numbered 1983,

1983 matches the number of one of the P70 coaches once on the St. Johnsbury & Lamoille County Railroad that Alan mentioned.


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