These conversations has gone on too long… there is name calling, rumor mongering, and allegations. Some now involved in the discussion were not involved in the dispute but are reveling in the chance to roll in the manure. As your Friendly Moderator my patience has come to an end…

I am locking all threads… I will lock new threads. Discussion about this on this on this discussion board has ended. This is no longer about preservation but is about ego and "I got you".

Randy Hees
Your Friendly Moderator.