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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:55 am 

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Here's a good Dodge Truck Sunset Yellow link to see some of the color shift...

http://findclassicars.com/dodge/9887-19 ... -body.html

Back to two pre-1973 yellows again? This one might very well just work out...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:22 pm 

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Here's one Lehigh Valley combo I can put together with relative certainty now thanks to that list... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:24 pm 

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WE5880 Socony Red on the right and the very similar WE5884 on the left...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:10 am 

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I've directed my cracked research team to investigate the Cornell University/Campbell's Soup connection to see if there's any possible correlation there with the Lehigh Valley but, of course, they're not promising results any time soon. LOL Here's a cool magazine ad from 1926 which features the Pennsy's Broadway Limited turning north off the Rockville Bridge at Marysville, however...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:19 pm 

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I figured I'd check in with the modelers to find out what's happening and they do have some DuPont code numbers referenced here...

http://www.lvrr.anthraciterailroads.org ... r-schemes/

Basically, both WE5880 and WE5884 look like a typical bright red with a little bit of green added in. If Socony Red isn't Cornell's Carnelian Red, then perhaps we should be looking at WE5884 instead...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:40 pm 

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Campbell's Soup is from Camden NJ; hence the PRR connection. In 1926 I'll bet much of the produce that went into the soup was delivered to Campbell's by PRR.

Phil Mulligan


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:38 pm 

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I'm sure the Pennsy hauled much of the finished product out of there also, Phil. Campbell's changed their colors to red and white in the late 1800's after one of the company execs attended a Cornell vs. Penn football game and fell in love with Cornell's red and white uniforms.

I can't say for sure Campbell's used Carnelian Red on their soup labels originally but that possibility does exist.

Anyhow, I believe the real reason the earlier Lehigh Valley Cornell Red appeared to darken with age is the fact it was applied last over top of the black...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:35 am 

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Okay, in order to clear up any befuddlement and confusion I may have caused myself and others earlier on, the locomotives and cabooses were indeed the same 1962 colors... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:36 am 

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The freight cars as well...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:08 pm 

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Here's a link to a Sunset Yellow glove box lid for sale out of a 1964 Power Wagon. In no two pictures does the color look exactly alike even though all four were taken under the same lighting conditions...

https://www.bonanza.com/listings/1964-D ... /927016176

This weekend, I went rooting through my packed-away boxes of HO train stuff I have stashed for that layout I may never end up building but still hope to one day. LOL Back in the '90's, Atlas put out a fairly accurate model of this guy and I just happen to have one...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:44 am 

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Don't allow your hope level to rise up too high on this one since it appears to be a classic application of average in-between colors. Now, this model isn't mine but hey, take a crazy wild guess on what particular green Atlas did use...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:49 am 

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This is the exact chip match for the yellow... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:22 am 

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Swift Red on the Lehigh Valley? I don't think so...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:30 am 

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Eh, no problem. Just strip the lettering off it and go find a set of Jersey Central decals. I'd leave the round roof hatches to agitate the nitpickers, though... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:04 pm 

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On the 1967 chart, 93-1317 New Idea Green is two chips above 93-046 GMC Morat Green, three chips below 93-5316 New Oliver Green, and four chips below 93-24430 Chevy Truck Seacrest Green. If they had the Southern's 93-5800 below 1317 like it should be, then 1317 would be right in the middle of everything...


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