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 Post subject: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:41 pm 

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Went out to Frederick on Saturday to help Walkersville Southern remove some of the old PRR track into Frederick. The city of Frederick is putting in a bike trail and has allowed us to go retrieve anything we can use, rails, joint bars, tie plates, etc.
We had two teams out working, one working on pulling spikes and removing tie plates and another working on joint bars. Moving onto other sections and removing rails will be on another day.
The plan is for the trail to eventually bridge over Maryland Route 26, where it will parallel WS tracks to the Monocracy River Bridge. Future concepts for the trail have it to continue all the way to Woodsborro. Hoping that we can have a bike transfer in the future.

Here’s a link to a story on the trail:
https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/planning/planners-bike-advocates-see-potential-of-east-street-path/article_a8775ea6-25f6-59c1-9a78-b6a1a545fece.html

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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:49 pm 

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Climax1551 wrote:
Went out to Frederick on Saturday to help Walkersville Southern remove some of the old PRR track into Frederick. The city of Frederick is putting in a bike trail and has allowed us to go retrieve anything we can use, rails, joint bars, tie plates, etc.
We had two teams out working, one working on pulling spikes and removing tie plates and another working on joint bars. Moving onto other sections and removing rails will be on another day.
The plan is for the trail to eventually bridge over Maryland Route 26, where it will parallel WS tracks to the Monocracy River Bridge. Future concepts for the trail have it to continue all the way to Woodsborro. Hoping that we can have a bike transfer in the future.

Here’s a link to a story on the trail:
https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/planning/planners-bike-advocates-see-potential-of-east-street-path/article_a8775ea6-25f6-59c1-9a78-b6a1a545fece.html

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So this is just the track south of Maryland Route 26?
Also, your links do not appear to work.


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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:17 pm 

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NS 3322 wrote:
Climax1551 wrote:
Went out to Frederick on Saturday to help Walkersville Southern remove some of the old PRR track into Frederick. The city of Frederick is putting in a bike trail and has allowed us to go retrieve anything we can use, rails, joint bars, tie plates, etc.
We had two teams out working, one working on pulling spikes and removing tie plates and another working on joint bars. Moving onto other sections and removing rails will be on another day.
The plan is for the trail to eventually bridge over Maryland Route 26, where it will parallel WS tracks to the Monocracy River Bridge. Future concepts for the trail have it to continue all the way to Woodsborro. Hoping that we can have a bike transfer in the future.

Here’s a link to a story on the trail:
https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/planning/planners-bike-advocates-see-potential-of-east-street-path/article_a8775ea6-25f6-59c1-9a78-b6a1a545fece.html

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So this is just the track south of Maryland Route 26?
Also, your links do not appear to work.


Yes, it is ONLY SOUTH OF 26. We lost the ability to go into Frederick when the mouth of Route 26 was put in. No crossing allowed there...

Try the photos as links:
http://imgur.com/SXaX9bF
http://imgur.com/SZuSfJ4
http://imgur.com/myCFkQt

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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:11 pm 

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Rail looks rather large. Is it 130 PS?

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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:42 pm 

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Rick Rowlands wrote:
Rail looks rather large. Is it 130 PS?


The largest number I heard thrown out there was 100 lb on the crossings, lighter between with variations here and there. We found what I believe to be cast iron rail that’s pre-1900. Take your guess... no markings.

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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:41 am 

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What, if anything, are you going to do with the rails just pulled up? Any plans?

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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:32 pm 

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At this stage in the game, given scrap efforts worldwide and decreasing supply, I would encourage ANY operating rail museum to stockpile any rail they can--especially if it's 1) "free" for the taking and 2) nearby. The days of being able to grab rail from an abandoned Class One siding or yard are pretty much long gone, and even abandoned industrial sidings are getting scarce.

Traditional "stick rail" WITH matching joint bars is getting harder to come by. A couple years ago I brokered a deal between two rail museums, one of whom needed to build a new siding to relocate stored rail cars and another with a healthy supply of rail salvaged from a former PRR yard literally within sight of their operation. The latter sold the rail and joint bars at basic scrap value, and the former sent a truck 175 miles to get the rail from the stockpile!


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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:08 pm 

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bigjim4life wrote:
What, if anything, are you going to do with the rails just pulled up? Any plans?


I heard that it’s going to be used for a new storage siding next to our current one in Walkersville. It’s starting to get very crowded. Suspect to change though...

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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:22 am 

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Climax1551 wrote:
We found what I believe to be cast iron rail that’s pre-1900. Take your guess... no markings.

That would be Bessemer steel or pre-Bessemer wrought iron. Cast iron experiments in rail were in the mid-century. As was said elsewhere, rail with matched joint bars is wonderful stuff for sidings. All it needs is appropriate sub-grade, ballast and tie support.

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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:36 pm 
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Down here in Southeastern Va. i know of where about 5 miles of jointed abandoned rail is that was once main line trackage. When Norfolk and Western merged with the Virginian Rwy. they abandoned the former Virginian main from Bowers Hill in Chesapeake,Va. to Just east of Suffolk, Va. Most if not all of the rail on that section (and also a signal pole) is still in place. This happened back in the 1960's. Large trees are now grown on the ROW but not over the rail yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Walkersville Southern Removes Track in Frederick
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:14 pm 

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hankmum wrote:
Down here in Southeastern Va. i know of where about 5 miles of jointed abandoned rail is that was once main line trackage. When Norfolk and Western merged with the Virginian Rwy. they abandoned the former Virginian main from Bowers Hill in Chesapeake,Va. to Just east of Suffolk, Va. Most if not all of the rail on that section (and also a signal pole) is still in place. This happened back in the 1960's. Large trees are now grown on the ROW but not over the rail yet.


A section of this track does have some small trees growing from it farther up the line. The last time this was all used was by WS in the 1990s for speeder runs, so a lot has overgrown rather rapidly if it wasn’t upkept. The specific section we worked on was upkept as a median between the road and the parking lots. The grass around the track was dead and dry, I assume someone came by and sprayed some chemicals in anticipation for removal. It was easily raked away.

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