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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:25 pm 

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Txhighballer wrote:
If I ever got the chance to run or fire her she would have to have a cigar lighter....


Funny you mention.....she did have a cigarette lighter on her back in '85. Don't know if it is still there or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:22 pm 

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nasaracer32 wrote:
Txhighballer wrote:
If I ever got the chance to run or fire her she would have to have a cigar lighter....


Funny you mention.....she did have a cigarette lighter on her back in '85. Don't know if it is still there or not.


LOL it appears to have been removed during the recent cab rebuild. OSHA says we can't smoke in the cab of steam locomotives, since they're an "enclosed space." ;-) I still haven't figured out if it's an OSHA violation if I forget to crack the blower before I open the firedoor...

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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:26 pm 

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Call it a "power point." It would be a place to plug in your GPS or laptop.


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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:19 pm 

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G. W. Laepple wrote:
Call it a "power point." It would be a place to plug in your GPS or laptop.


If you are in need of a GPS on a locomotive, you'd best reconsider your vocation, your work environment, or both......


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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:31 pm 

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I thought the GPS tracking feature that was offered this year on the 765 was truly ground-breaking. It proved invaluable to those who wanted to chase in a safe manner. I hope they consider something similar for this and other engines as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:47 pm 

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Andrew Durden wrote:
nasaracer32 wrote:
Txhighballer wrote:
If I ever got the chance to run or fire her she would have to have a cigar lighter....


Funny you mention.....she did have a cigarette lighter on her back in '85. Don't know if it is still there or not.


LOL it appears to have been removed during the recent cab rebuild. OSHA says we can't smoke in the cab of steam locomotives, since they're an "enclosed space." ;-) I still haven't figured out if it's an OSHA violation if I forget to crack the blower before I open the firedoor...


LOL! Well hopefully they figure out that it's vital to do so....perhaps give them a "personal" demonstration?


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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:10 pm 

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Here are some fairly recent pictures of on going work -


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File comment: The feedwater heater prior to installation. This is an exact duplicate of the Worthington product.
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File comment: Front view of the feedwater heater and hot water pump mounted on the locomotive. The smokebox modifications are visible in this picture. Jacketing will cover the recess after the piping is installed.
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File comment: Newly Installed Backhead - Corner patches are not installed yet. Note opening for Standard HT Stoker
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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:17 pm 

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More pictures for your viewing pleasure.


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File comment: Tank modifications for the stoker trough have been completed. Note the raised deck height.
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File comment: The rebuilt stoker engine awaits installation. Lagging and jacket are still needed for the cylinders.
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File comment: Side view of the feedwater heater and hot water pump mounted on the locomotive. The smokebox modifications are visible in this picture. Jacketing will cover the recess after the piping is installed
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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:21 pm 

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You guys should be mighty proud...wish I lived closer....


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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:48 am 

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And the excitement continues to build...
...I had to reach out to google and look up every application of the Worthington feed water heater...so that I could mentally think about how the engine will look when ready. No doubt that there will be mechanical gains made by all the new upgrades...TOUGH!


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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:02 am 

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IC382 wrote:
And the excitement continues to build...
...I had to reach out to google and look up every application of the Worthington feed water heater...so that I could mentally think about how the engine will look when ready.



Here's a good example:

http://southern.railfan.net/images/arch ... u4505.html

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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:17 am 

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Andrew Durden wrote:


Wish we could find some Prime drifting valves of that style for the 01.


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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:35 am 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
If you are in need of a GPS on a locomotive, you'd best reconsider your vocation, your work environment, or both......


Way OT, but actually, GPS would be pretty handy if you were trying to have a computer-fired coal burner like the ACE 3000. This would allow your "fireman" to anticipate grades and stops and adjust the firing rate and water supply to suit.

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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:11 pm 

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whodom wrote:
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
If you are in need of a GPS on a locomotive, you'd best reconsider your vocation, your work environment, or both......


Way OT, but actually, GPS would be pretty handy if you were trying to have a computer-fired coal burner like the ACE 3000. This would allow your "fireman" to anticipate grades and stops and adjust the firing rate and water supply to suit.


With that in mind, I would think a GPS would be handy for any fireman.

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 Post subject: Re: Southern Railway 4501 Update
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:12 am 

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I've yet to see a GPS unit that tells me to "add more coal", "add more water" or "take the siding 500 feet ahead"......

On the other hand, I have personally driven GPS programs into conniptions when chasing trains, especially when driving/riding Jeeps "cross-country" over roads that may or may not exist yet while chasing the Grand Canyon, Apache, and Verde Canyon Railroads...... We keep joking that the winner is the one that turns the voice from "Off route--recalculating..." to "WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING?!?!?!?"


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