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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:29 pm 

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Hillcrest 3 Truck Climax #10 was in a collision with a large truck (dump truck? cement mixer? I can't recall) and rolled while in service on Vancouver Island. She was repaired and returned to service. That's why the water tank over the third truck is welded, while the oil tank portion by the cab is riveted construction.

She's now in service on the Mt Rainier Scenic RR.


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:27 pm 

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The SP&S 700 was in an accident along the Columbia river, I believe in the early '50's where it derailed and rolled on its side. In the photo I saw of the accident recently (and cannot find again), it didn't look like the damage was too severe, and it looked like an accident similar to what happened with the N&W 611....obviously both repaired and restored.

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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:57 pm 

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L&N 152 at the Kentucky Railway Museum was involved in two in-service wrecks, including being turned over on her side at least once.

While not a locomotive, Illinois Terminal Interurban Car 101 at the Illinois Railway Museum was involved in a rather nasty grade crossing accident near Granite City, IL in the 1940s. Evidence today of the damage is demonstrated by a more "rough and ready" interior at that end of the car than the other. 101 was part of a 2 car train, including the 103, which survives as a body only near Alton, IL.

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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:49 am 

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Northern Pacific 1356, on display at Missoula Montana, fell through a washed out bridge in 1943 and was buried buried by the log train it was pulling. In the course of retrieving it, the first wrecker collapsed on top of it. It was finally retrieved and rebuilt at the NP's Livingston shops and continued in service. Oddly, it has new cylinder castings dating from the early 1950's--perhaps a rebuild program for the entire class of S-4 ten wheelers.

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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:31 pm 

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Atlanta & West Point 290 was involved in a head on collision in the 40s. She got a new pilot, a smoke box off an FEC 2-8-2, and a new number one driver. I am sure plenty of other parts as well.

290 was returned to service and retired to Lakewood Fair Grounds in Atlanta. Atl Chapter NRHS acquired her from the city of Atlanta. New Georgia returned her to life in 1989. She now resides in Duluth, GA at the Southeastern Railway Museum where she is undergoing a cosmetic restoration.

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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:03 am 
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62Hillcrest wrote:
The SP&S 700 was in an accident along the Columbia river, I believe in the early '50's where it derailed and rolled on its side. In the photo I saw of the accident recently (and cannot find again), it didn't look like the damage was too severe, and it looked like an accident similar to what happened with the N&W 611....obviously both repaired and restored.

Cheers, Dave


Dave, here's a picture of the 700. The derailment occurred on the north bank of the Snake River east of Pasco near Redd. I'm currently in Elbe, WA on a 7-week job on the MRR&LM's Polar Express and don't have access to my home computer hard drive right now for information regarding it but I'm pretty sure it happened in 1948. Nothin' like being late to the party, eh?, considering that you posted your question seven years ago! I heard from an old-head SP&S hogger many years ago that the SP&S Master Mechanic was almost in tears because he had to cut the drawbar in order to drag the engine and tender back up to the right-of-way.


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:32 am 

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Northern Pacific 0-6-0 #924 was wrecked at least twice. It fell through a dock in Seattle and got side swiped in Tacoma and lost her cab. Now under restoration at Snoqualmie, WA. Rayonier 2-8-2 #70 wound up on her side after hitting a log truck at a crossing.


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:50 am 

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CP O'Shea wrote:
Kelly Anderson wrote:
Our #90 was rolled over onto her fireman’s side twice while on the Great Western, resulting in the death of the fireman both times.

In her early years at Strasburg she had a pretty good lope, and when the valve gear was set for the first time at Strasburg, it was found that the left side was in better time than the right, probably due to its having been set reset after the rollover while the right was not.

Today, evidence of her traumatic past can be seen in the rather homemade appearance of her cab,probably built in the Burlington shops in Denver, pretty rough and ready compared to a Baldwin factory cab.

Legend (or rumor, take your pick) has it that GW also had a pretty nasty roundhouse fire, in which 90 was used to pull several other engines, including now-preserved 2-8-0 #60 from the blaze before the engines suffered serious damage.


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It's true about the fire. GW lost their mechanical records in the fire, as shown by the cover of #90's blueprint book, a replacement dated 1940.

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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:56 am 

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In one of the posts, one person did mention Boston & Maine # 3713, I have a few photos taken by a Friend of mind, Mr. Don Fellows showing the engine on the ground in Lebanon, New Hampshire at a place called Bakers in November 1949.


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:04 am 

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The National Museum of American History has a photograph in their rail vehicle files of Southern Railway Ps-4 No. 1401 rolled over on her side circa 1942. The curator would not allow me to make a copy of the photo so it is "closely guarded." Also, there are dings and dents in the "John Bull" boiler indicative of the engine having been in a wreck while in service on the Camden & Amboy sometime prior to 1866.

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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:32 pm 

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C&TS 483 was involved in a derailment east of Durango in September, 1958. It was leading 494 down the 2% grade into Durango when it derailed in a right hand curve on a fill. 494 shoved it off the hill and over on its left side killing fireman Paul Mayer.

The D&RGW patched up 483 and it was in service until the end in 1968. The C&TS operated 483 until retired in 1977.

C&TS 489 was running light down Cumbres Pass just west of MP 336 when it hit a broken rail in May, 1926. 489 went off the left side of the fill and rolled over down the hill killing the engineer. The fireman survived and worked until retirement in the 1960's. 489 was less than 6 months old and the newest engine on the narrow gauge. 489 was of course quickly repaired, and operated on the D&RGW until 1961 when it was retired. It was overhauled by the C&TS in 1981 and has been in service since.

If you know where to look, the bent-in-half remains of the right side of 489's cab remains where she landed.

While not operated since 1966, C&TS 492 has been in a couple of wrecks. She hit a HUGE boulder west of Chama in 1962, caving in the upper part of the smokebox. She was repaired with the smokebox off retired #490. Interesting tidbit was even though the top of the smokebox and headlight were completely demolished, the headlight bulb was not broken and was still lit. 492 worked to Alamosa shop under her own power, and a caved-in nose.

In the late 1930's 492 ran way headed east off Marshall Pass into Salida. She derailed into a rock wall which tore up the right side quite badly.


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:28 pm 

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In Maine, WW&F No. 9 was involved in numerous accidents when she was on the Sandy River. This includes being sideswiped by a standard gauge MEC train on the diamond in Farmington in 1897 (which killed her engineer), roundhouse fires in Phillips in 1897 and 1923, and several rollovers or other serious derailments.

Her current wooden cab, though certainly historic, is at least the third one she's carried.

-Philip Marshall


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:18 pm 

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Alaska Railroad #556, sister to ARR 557 and displayed in an Anchorage Park since about 1960, rolled onto her side on January 1, 1951. She was the second locomotive in a double header with ARR 559. My recollection of the accident report is that the lead truck derailed on ice packed into the flangeway at a grade crossing and about a mile further the derailed truck caused both locomotives to derail at a turnout and 556 rolled onto her side.

The records suggest she wasn't immediately placed back in service and was one of two locomotives reported as destroyed in the Anchorage roundhouse fire. Despite being recorded in ARR records as having been destroyed, she was returned to service. The fire may have been the reason she spent her last couple of years of operation with a tender from an early 1900s Panama Canal 2-6-0.

Photos and other information came from ARR business records that were in the Anchorage National Archives facility until it closed a few years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:27 pm 

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Cass Scenic #9 3 truck Climax(Ex Moore Keppel Lumber) was burnt to a crisp in a huge engine house fire in the 1970s just before its turn to be restored. Left to rust in the weeds in the Cass deadline for another couple decades and now just about ready to emerge fully restored to like new condition from the shops. If one had seen what she looked like in the weeds in the mid 1990s, you would have never thought she could be restored to operation again. Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Wreck to rebuild to preservation locomotives???
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:09 pm 

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Dick_Morris wrote:
Alaska Railroad #556, sister to ARR 557 and displayed in an Anchorage Park since about 1960, rolled onto her side on January 1, 1951. She was the second locomotive in a double header with ARR 559. My recollection of the accident report is that the lead truck derailed on ice packed into the flangeway at a grade crossing and about a mile further the derailed truck caused both locomotives to derail at a turnout and 556 rolled onto her side.

The records suggest she wasn't immediately placed back in service and was one of two locomotives reported as destroyed in the Anchorage roundhouse fire. Despite being recorded in ARR records as having been destroyed, she was returned to service. The fire may have been the reason she spent her last couple of years of operation with a tender from an early 1900s Panama Canal 2-6-0.

Photos and other information came from ARR business records that were in the Anchorage National Archives facility until it closed a few years ago.


Dick -

From the photo of 556 on her side, it looks like she still had her headlight "riding high" on the boiler at the time of that accident. So she probably had the headlight lowered to the center of the smokebox front, when the Alaska Railroad did the rebuild. BTW, is she now displayed with that 1900's Panama Canal 2-6-0 tender?

Les


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