RRM PA owns 1926 Brill Birney #236 from Conestoga Traction. It's in Manheim PA, on loan to the Manheim Historical Society.

PA Museum & Hist Comm'n has two mine motors in Scranton at the Anthracite Heritage Museum in McDade Park. One of them is a VanDepoele from the 1880's! Both motors are in climate-controlled exhibits inside the building. There's an 0-6-0T steam lokie in a shed outside.

Electric City Trolley Museum Association

> I would offer the following:
> 1. Bessemer F- unit
> 2. New York Central wooden caboose
> 3. Lackawanna Caboose
> 4. A turbine if one could be obtained

> 5. The two 1938 PS Broadway Limited cars
> that are languishing at Altoona. One is an
> obs and one a mid train lounge. Two cars
> from the beginning of the streamlined era. A
> perfect match to the heavy weights now on
> display and the postwar cars in the yard.

> 6. A matchining Metroliner.

> 7. An early "hot box detector"

> 8. An off-site building to house "stuff" in.

Some questions about #5 above:

Are these the two cars that sat in Phillipsburg, PA for many years ?

If so, I remember seeing, and have pictures of, the tail-sign on the obs was for "The Spirit of Saint Louis", before some delinquent(s) smashed it.

Were these also Broadway cars before or after being on the S of St L ?

B-T-W, the obs that I saw at Phillipsburg is a ringer for the extinct N&W "Arrow" obs cars, at least from the outside. It would have looked good behind 611.

> Thanks for the news. I am glad to hear that
> some folks out there think of them as more
> than cheaply available passenger cars for
> tourist lines. Very interesting electric
> trains.

I agree. The R&GVRR group has actually expressed a desire to try and retrofit one of these cars to operate (using a generator on a flatcar, I guess). If I remember correctly, they originally ran off of 3000v DC. I think this means that theoretically you could fit one with a 600v air compressor and possibly some control system modifications and operate it on any trolley museum's line - with a top speed of about 10mph at full parallel, of course. :-)

Frank Hicks

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