It is currently Tue Aug 25, 2026 7:37 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:05 pm 

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:34 pm
Posts: 2836
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Does anyone know of any current existing pole line circuits in service?

_________________
Steven Harrod
Lektor
Danmarks Tekniske Universitet


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:52 pm 

Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:18 pm
Posts: 2226
rather non-descript question, if your thinking about streetcar/interurban/electric, go check out the South Shore that runs between South Bend/Chicago.

Up here in SW Michigan abandoned interurban lines the pole lines they traversed still run electric power around. (or the ROW they used)


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:57 pm 

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:31 am
Posts: 119
Location: Northern Illinois
softwerkslex wrote:
Does anyone know of any current existing pole line circuits in service?


Could you clarify this a bit? If we assume this means traditional, North American-style open-wire pole lines for signals and communications, the answer's going to be "not many".


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:42 am 

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:52 pm
Posts: 914
If I recall correctly, many of the poles that were in use by the D&RGW in 1968 along the current Cumbres & Toltec are maintained and plans are in a low priority placement for restoration to be able to show visitors how the lines work.

I think it is a telegraphone but I do not know for sure.

Doug vV


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:28 am 

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:34 pm
Posts: 2836
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Sorry, yes I meant signal-phone-telegraph.

_________________
Steven Harrod
Lektor
Danmarks Tekniske Universitet


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:20 am 

Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:18 pm
Posts: 2226
yep, the main pole lines seem to be dissappearing due to radio. Very common sight. I recall a pic train unrelated about electricity and phones etc in New York and there were a mass of wires running between buildings. Probably 1920ish photo.

I would recheck the south shore again however, I will look next time I am about that way.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:02 am 

Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:05 am
Posts: 173
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Modern wireless communications systems have replaced telegraph lines in most situations, and buried cable or fiber optic lines are replacing much of what remains of traditional code and telephone/telegraph lines; buried cables are easier to maintain and less likely to be damaged or stolen than wire strung from poles. There's a few code circuits still in use here in Albuquerque and further north on the old ATSF "passenger main", but that will disappear once PTC is installed (which may not be as far off as some folks think).

_________________
Helping this grand dame get running again:
http://www.nmslrhs.org/


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:35 am 

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:02 am
Posts: 293
And here I was hoping for a discussion on pole roads...
Image

_________________
--Drew Black


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:31 pm 

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 6464
Location: southeastern USA
Tanner and Delany?

_________________
“God, the beautiful racket of it all: the sighing and hissing, the rattle and clack of the cars over the rails. These were the sounds that made America the greatest country on earth." Jonathan Evison


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:21 am 

Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:18 pm
Posts: 2226
I wonder if anyone researched pole line railroads and made a book,...heh, thats a chain driven engine. Even the couplers are poles


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Is that in Poleland?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:33 am 

Joined: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:16 pm
Posts: 231
Every thing is pole related.

Look at the wheels... and the rails. It's a poleish railroad...


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:48 am 

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:52 pm
Posts: 914
Hi,

Just before I lost my job in 2004, I had some designs for eMachineshop to make an HO pole railroad using a drawings from NG&SLG for a 7' gauge (?) line and using parts of a Gardenia bush for the HO scale poles. I was hoping yo use a Ye Old Huff n Puff static Climax for the power and a new underframe for the motor and spool wheels. It was a fun project. To bad other items killed off the project.

Doug vV


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:06 pm 

Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:14 am
Posts: 367
Dougvv wrote:
If I recall correctly, many of the poles that were in use by the D&RGW in 1968 along the current Cumbres & Toltec are maintained and plans are in a low priority placement for restoration to be able to show visitors how the lines work.

I think it is a telegraphone but I do not know for sure.

Doug vV


In 2010, I was on the Durango & Silverton. One thing that I saw that was fascinating was the existence of telegraph lines north of Rockwood. Around the High Line, there was what looked like pieces of angle iron, t posts, or whatever was available with an insulator or two still on the end, just sticking out of the rock above the train. In the areas that had more room around the ROW, there was conventional poles, most still standing. The thing that caught my attention was the miles of wire still out there, both hanging and lying on the ground. I remember one particular section where there seemed to be 3 miles of wire just lying on the rocks, following the tracks. I am one of those weird people who notice things like that.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:50 pm 

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:52 pm
Posts: 914
Hi,

My first ride on the D&RGW Silverton Branch was in 1972. The mainline south and east had been removed. It was not many years since a flood in the 1960's (I think) that washed out several miles of track. I recall the many places where there were miles of rail and wire wondering in and out of the Animas. The joint bars were still in place on these miles of rail and sometimes ties were still attached (both in and out of the water).

I do recall the pole crossarms attached to the rocks with no poles at all. It was all exciting for an 11 year old. It was my first narrow gauge ride I can recall excepting the ride (using ex-D&RGW cars) at Six Flags Over Georgia.

Doug vV


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pole Lines
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:22 pm 

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:51 pm
Posts: 12152
Location: Somewhere east of Prescott, AZ along the old Santa Fe "Prescott & Eastern"
There are at least a couple British heritage railways that maintain the old-style telegraph-communicated block instrument interlocking systems, and still staff signal boxes and stations with staff that communicate on old-style systems. I seem to recall Bluebell, North Yorkshire Moors, K&WV, and Severn Valley operating this way when I was there in 1991. If they've upgraded to electronics, radio despatch, or radio electronic token block systems, I don't know about it.......


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: