Mystery Cars

jmlaboda · Updated 8/9/17 with 8,402 new links

Somehow I got a bug in my ear which got me thinking about where the 2636, and the other cars on Wallowa Union might have been before they came to this line for operation and I can't shake the idea that maybe they were used with Cotton Belt 819 on the Cotton Belt RR Historical Society excursions? In the comments posted with the picture of WURR 3241 it is mentioned that that car has an SSW emblem located near the door, which makes me wonder... the paint scheme is right, silver carbody and black window band...

Thoughts anyone???

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:27 am

Rainier Rails wrote:

16. NP coach (Pullman, 1923) reconfigured to café coach #1681 (1957) sold to Lake Whatcom RY (1968). Does anybody know the original coach number?

Info from the "Private Passenger Car Annual" by David L. Briggs (RPC Publications, 1980):

Built by Pullman in 1925 as 82 seat coach #1280, rebuilt in 1957 to 10 seat lunch counter-32 seat coach (chair?) #1681.

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:23 am

Les Beckman wrote:

Somewhere I have a list of where all these cars ended up and if I can ever find it, I'll post it here.

Dredging up this old thread, Les, did you ever come across that list of dispositions for the various WP/D&RGW 1910-built coaches?

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:13 am

Rainier Rails wrote:

CP 68 seat coach #2296 sold to BCPM Sundance (1973) to MRSR #684

Car is reported to have been scrapped somewhere in the 2015 timeframe.

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:18 am

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Also, does anybody have the builder/year info for NP baggage-express #1517?

After going through records, the #1517 was built as the #280 and was rebuilt by Pullman in 1921 as the #1517. If the series was #280-#291, then it was built by AC&F in 1910 in Lot #5691. Retired in 1967, and Bob Culp of the Lake Whatcom Railway said this: "Used in filming the award winning motion picture 'The Grey Fox' on the Lake Whatcom Railway and the British Columbia Railway. Damaged in transit from Canada back to the United States after filming was complete. Burlington Northern graciously made NP 1512 available to the Lake Whatcom Railway as a replacement, which was then numbered X-208 and in use a a tool car by the Bridges and Buildings crew at the Tacoma shops. These may be the only two Northern Pacific heavyweight baggage cars that survived. Don't know if the one that was at Green Bay is still around, but I don't believe it is there any more. 1512 and 1517 may be it."

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:57 am

Rainier Rails wrote:

Other cars at Elbe and Park Junction:

11. There is an unidentified open platform observation which is currently stored on the wye at Park Junction: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3906044

I made an inquiry about this car in the Surviving Passenger Cars in the U.S. group on FB, and replies indicated this car is either of SP&S or Omaha Road heritage, but the full history still remains unknown.

I didn't post it here before, but I believe this is the same car, taken back in the 70's when it was located on the Seattle waterfront in a faux-UP Armour Yellow scheme as "#99" (but if it is of SP&S heritage, it is not their business car #99): http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1937935 (John Hill photo)

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:01 am

Rainier Rails wrote:

19. SP&S business car #99 sold to Monte Holm (1970??) and formerly located at Holm's House of Poverty Museum in Moses Lake, WA, with Alaska RR #557. At last report this car has been moved from that location, I do not know if it is still in Moses Lake or elsewhere.

With the inquiry on FB regarding the above faux-UP "#99" now stored at Park Junction also came replies which indicated that the SP&S #99 was acquired by the Chehalis-Centralia RR.

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:14 am

Here's another car worth noting, located out in the March Point area of Fidalgo Island: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nojuanshome/40207706961/

This is reportedly a wood sleeper built by B&S in circa 1909, no further info.

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:53 am

Rainier Rails wrote:

GN 60 seat "short distance" chair #1212 (also built by AC&F for the Mid-Century Empire Builder, intended to be renumbered BN #6015). Now located in Bothell at Country Village.

CB&Q snack bar-42 seat chair #342 Silver Top (built by Budd in 1937 as FW&D 52 seat chair #403). Now located in Bothell with the #1212.

As posted in the classifieds and elsewhere by Drew Black, Country Village has been slated for redevelopment. The #342 was moved already a few years ago down to Chehalis, WA (where the Peninsular Railway & Lumberman's Museum is storing their former Simpson Timber Company power and other equipment), but the #1212 and cabooses are still on-site.

Classifieds listing: http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43173

Another older thread (2016) regarding the nee-GN chair: http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39728

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Don Strack · **Posted:** Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:14 am

12. UP modernized heavyweight diner, lettered as Mount Rainier RR Dining Company (MRSX) #481 Lewis: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3906296. Stored in Elbe with 2 ex-RDG cars from the American Freedom Train (AFT #203 and #205), which are also lettered MRSX. Does anybody know which UP diner this is?

This car, MSRX 481, might be ex Salt Lake Garfield & Western 711.

https://utahrails.net/utahrails/slgw-locos.php#slgw711