Bearing on the Pullman car:



Interior views of an interurban car:

Interior view of the other interurban car:



Interior views of the Pullman car:

Re the photo:

I really liked the green one from SSERPXE TNEIRO. Didn't know they were still around :)

The cars as of 5/8/2014.

The funny thing is I've driven past this place countless times, even when it was still Andy's diner. But it simply didn't look like the kind of place that I wanted to risk spending hours in the bathroom afterward to go eat at (every time I've been skeptical looking at the outside of an eatery and I went in anyway, I've always seemed to regret not going with my gut - so to speak- and going to eat somewhere else). Maybe it looked totally different on the inside, but the outside sure didn't inspire confidence.

There was a place very similar to this in Vancouver near the old NP/MLW/SP&S depot, I wish it'd been in operation after I moved here (would have gotten a great view of trains along the old SP&S 'north bank' line). I watched most of the rolling stock there get bulldozed a few years back...

That's going to happen here sooner or later. In fact, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already, and when I saw there was a new post I was expecting photos of the demo.

Guys, this is the time to act! I know nothing about what the future holds, but that's a valuable piece of real estate, and sooner or later it's going to be sold. I rather doubt the new owner is going to say "I want to do a train themed restaurant."

If you're at all interested in preserving any of these cars, do it now, rather than crying in your ADM4 approved micro brew once they're scrapped!

Pictures:

Taken on Saturday, October 4th.

The cars which face the streetside (front) of the restaurant are, from south to north (left to right as seen in Glen's photo above): NP business car, MU commuter coach, 1 of 2 Oregon Electric coach trailers (all on the south side of the center building), and the Harriman coach (on the north side of the building). The other OE coach is also on the south side, but towards the rear, directly behind the other OE car.

As reported in the Surviving Pullman Heavyweight Sleeping Cars thread, the business car is the ex-NP #4 Gallatin River, exx-Pullman Newport, exxx-Puretest (renamed March to December 1936 for the Rexall Train), nee-Newport, Lot #4422, Plan #2502B, 1916, sold to NP in 1941.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3992608



http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3992622



There are 2 Oregon Electric coach trailers, OE #132 and #137. Unknown which one is which.

First OE car, which is not on the streetside (front) of the restaurant, but around back along the south parking lot:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3994315



http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3994326



Second OE car (facing the street):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3994340



MU commuter coach. Does anybody know the identity/history of this car? Thanks in advance!

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3994370



Harriman coach. Does anybody know the identity/history of this car? Thanks in advance!

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3994483



Sources:

1. "The Complete Roster of Heavyweight Pullman Cars" by Robert J. Wayner (Wayner Publications, 1985)

2. Tom Madden's Pullman Project CCR database: http://pullmanproject.com/Database.htm

3. Hicks-Hakner database: http://www.bera.org/pnaerc.html

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Additions and corrections are welcome. Thanks in advance.

Yes. All four cars survive. The Roald Amundsen is owned by the City of Scottsdale, Arizona and is on permanent display at the McCormick-Stillman Railroad Park. It is regularly open for visitation.

Alan--

The Newport ("Surviving Pullman" thread line item #367), Manhattan (#366), and Palm Beach (#136) were Plan #2502B private cars built in 1916 in Lot #4422.

The Roald Amundsen (#123) and the Ferdinand Magellan (#88) were Plan #3972B/#3972 built in 1929 in Lot #6246.

Of the 23 total Pullman private cars built between 1911 and 1929, 16 are known to survive. Besides the 5 cars alreadly listed, there are:

117. Federal (Lot #3812, Plan #2492, 1911) sold to DL&W #98 Pocono (1933) to EL #98 to Ringling Brothers to Dave Luca Federal #800713

60. Superb (Lot #3847, Plan #2503, 1911) renamed Los Angeles (1925) changed back to Superb (1926) sold to Charleston & Western Carolina #101 (1945) to SCL donated to Atlanta Chapter NRHS-Southeastern RY Museum (Duluth, GA)

155. Advance (Lot #3848, Plan #2502, 1911) renamed Asheville (1936) sold to Algoma Central #552 Michipicoten (1944) to CN to Illinois Historic Preservation Agency-Lincoln Museum (Springfield, IL)

345. New York (Lot #4210, Plan #2492, 1914) sold to NC&StL #97 (1942) renumbered to #99 to L&N #352 sold to Kilby Family (DeArmanville, AL)

216. Boston (Lot #4211, Plan #2502A, 1914) sold to NP #6 Jefferson River (1941) to private ownership Royal Gorge to private ownership Alexauken and stored in Logan, OH

313. Philadelphia (Lot #4211, Plan #2502A, 1914) sold to WP #105 (1942) to Dick Reynolds-Great Western Tours to Napa Valley Wine Train

230. Pilgrim (Lot #4490, Plan #2502C, 1917) sold to E.B. McLean (1922) to PM #2 to C&O #16 to FCP #190 to NdeM #190 to Puebla RR Museum (Puebla, MEX)

312. Pioneer (1st) (Lot #4490, Plan #2502C, 1917) renamed Davy Crockett (1927) sold to WP #106 (1942) renamed Charles O. Sweetland (1950) to Marty Lummis to WP RR Museum (Portola, CA)

115. Marco Polo (Lot #6037, Plan #3972, 1927) sold to CofG Savannah (1944) to SOU to NS #30 Marco Polo and parked at Union Station (Washington, D.C.)

159. Pioneer (2nd) (Lot #6037, Plan #3972A, 1927) renamed Friendship (1928) changed back to Pioneer (2nd) (1929) sold to SAL #106 Jacksonville (1944) to SCL #106 to Bill Savage to Alfred K. Nippert to Indiana RY Museum (French Lick, IN)

56. Robert Peary (Lot #6037, Plan #3972, 1927) sold to CB&Q Blackhawk (1944) to private ownership Victoria (1966) donated to Pacific Southwest RY Museum Robert Peary (1974)

Sources:

1. "The Complete Roster of Heavyweight Pullman Cars" by Robert J. Wayner (Wayner Publications, 1985)

2. Tom Madden's Pullman Project CCR database: http://pullmanproject.com/Database.htm

The Crazy Things That Happen Inside Orient Express from The Stranger.

Ted -

Saw a note in a story about the Pullman National Monument in todays Chicago Tribune that seemed to indicate that the "Advance" would end up in Chicago after restoration efforts. The 1911 built car had been used by Robert Todd Lincoln when he was chairman of the board of the Pullman Palace Car Company. No info about where the car would be located at the National Monument.


Les