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Author:  jdorn [ Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

I have no affiliation, but saw this and thought someone out there might need one of these.

http://discoverlivesteam.com/discoverfo ... /index.htm

Author:  christensenge [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

Thank you for bringing this to our attention!

I have already responded to the poster.


Sincerely,
Glenn Christensen

Author:  twofoot [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

jdorn wrote:
I have no affiliation, but saw this and thought someone out there might need one of these.

http://discoverlivesteam.com/discoverfo ... /index.htm


I'm curious to know what the "scrap value" of such a locomotive is. The ad mentions it, so I guess the metal merchants have made their offers.

-C.

Author:  JR May [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

Nice looking locomotive. I tried to get a feel for its history which comes back to Anaconda. Did this engine end up at Edaville at some point with some of the other Anaconda locomotives?

I have also been in contact with the seller. I’d be happy to lend a hand with a move and have some steam friends in the area who may be able to help out as well.

Its too good to let be cut up.

J.R.

Author:  christensenge [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

JR May wrote:
Nice looking locomotive. I tried to get a feel for its history which comes back to Anaconda. Did this engine end up at Edaville at some point with some of the other Anaconda locomotives?


Hi JR,

This was was not one of the BAP locos that was at Edaville. Two of them are currently at Boothbay Railway Village and the 3rd has been restored to service by a private owner in PA(?) You may be able to find the videos of this locomotive posted on YouTube.

Edaville also had a 42" gauge 0-4-0ST that could possibly be rebuilt as an outside frame 2' gauge loco, but I don't know for sure whether the engine is currently at Edaville or not.


Best Regards,
Glenn

Author:  JR May [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

I was just looking at the WW&F #10, also a Vulcan and also built originally as a 30ā€ gauge locomotive.

Just food for thought. If doable on one, should be doable on the other. Maybe.

J.R.

Author:  twofoot [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:42 pm ]
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JR May wrote:
I was just looking at the WW&F #10, also a Vulcan and also built originally as a 30ā€ gauge locomotive.

Just food for thought. If doable on one, should be doable on the other. Maybe.

J.R.


Now wouldn't that be lovely!

Author:  JR May [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

Found this older posting on how the regauging was originally done. WW&F redid it 40 years later in a more professional manor.

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> Along those same lines: just what exactly
> WAS done to convert this engine from
> 30" to 24". Did they have to
> narrow the frame and saddle, or did it just
> get wide tires?

Edaville Railroad regauged the engine in '59/'60. They put a new (bigger!) boiler on. They also basically cut down the cross pieces of the frame, with the exception of the cylinder casting.

The cylinders are still 30", so they welded a bar on the outside of the frame which the cylinders bolted in to, and put large keys up against the casting wall to wedge it in place. As you can probably guess, that didn't work very well and we found the holes in the frame that held the casting to be egg-shaped when we removed the casting. Additionally there was a crack in one of the walls of the casting. We solved the problem by welding a vertical extension from the end of each bar to the frame itself, then keyed the cylinder in that way. We then custom-made four bolts which are dry-fit into the (bored-out) holes. That sucker ain't movin' again.

As for the drive rods, Edaville's rods came out straight from the connection to the cylinder rod, made a 90-degree corner in toward the frame, then another 90-degree corner back toward the wheel, similar to this: _|- They got away with it because the cylinders are so small. What we've done is put in a longer (and beefier) connection to the wheel which allows us to have a straight drive rod.

I've seen a picture of the regauging process, which was done outdoors on a paved surface, using (I'm told) jacks to hold up the frame.

Author:  elecuyer [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

JR May wrote:
Now wouldn't that be lovely!


FYI, the locomotive appears to be sold. I do not have the specifics of who purchased it. (And it was not purchased by the WW&F, although several of us thought that would be lovely, too.)

Author:  JR May [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

Looks like it sold to Sterling down in Texas. It is already listed as being for sale again:

http://www.sterlingrail.com/classifieds ... hp?id=8941

J.R.

Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

I suspect, from the fact that the photos are identical, that the loco was not actually sold, but simply re-listed with a different broker.

Author:  elecuyer [ Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

I emailed the broker (Sterling Rail.) They have an offer pending on the locomotive but it has not been sold. The price quoted far exceeds my budget. Email Sterling for the details if you are seriously interested in purchasing it.

Author:  CJCarlson [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

The link to discoverlivesteam.com is broken. Which engine is this and where was it originally located? Was it out of Edaville or elsewhere?

Thanks.

Author:  elecuyer [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 30" 0-4-0 Steam Locomotive Available

It was at Anthony's Pier 4 Restaurant in Boston. It is now privately owned and stored in NJ.

Details:
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomo ... splay=1458

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