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[VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 1361
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Author:  fmwsolutions [ Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 1361
VIDEO: https://youtu.be/QPMw9NhcJtg

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How do you begin to rebuild the Spirit of Altoona? Join Wolf Fengler, Vice President of Engineering for FMW Solutions, on a tour of the boiler and Belpaire firebox of Pennsylvania Railroad steam locomotive no. 1361 at the Railroaders Memorial Museum in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Learn what we've discovered about the locomotive’s current condition and our process to assess past work on this historic machine.


To learn more about the project or to support the museum with donations or memberships, visit http://www.railroadcity.org/1361.
Author:  PMC [ Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
Interesting.
Author:  Richard Glueck [ Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
After reviewing the video, it would appear the engineer in charge knows what he's talking about in terms of steel and the forces acting on it. One competent directing engineer needs to be in charge and finish the job correctly. Oversight is great until it becomes interference.
Author:  Reading 900 [ Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
Excellent! This time the work will be done absolutely correctly.
Alan
Author:  co614 [ Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
Sure is nice to have accomplished professionals like Wolf Fengler working on this iconic locomotive after years of mismanagement.

I look forward to seeing her under steam again.

Ross Rowland
Author:  nedsn3 [ Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
With Wick Moorman involved my confidence is revived. $2.6 mil is still a chunk of change. But I do love those K-4's!
Author:  PRR8063 [ Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:55 pm ]
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Love the video and the explanation of the methodology being used for the restoration!

Would it be possible to get a fundraising update?
Author:  Faller? [ Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
This Locomotive has spent as much time in pieces as it did in revenue service!

They want you to send More Money! You can't make this stuff up!
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:40 pm ]
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Faller? wrote:
This Locomotive has spent as much time in pieces as it did in revenue service!

No, it hasn't.

It spent 39 years in revenue service (May 1918-June 1957).

We can claim it's been in "kit form" since 1989 at most up to now. I'll call that at best 32 years, maybe 32.5 depending on when you want to start the clock on the second ripdown.

I know you have something of a point, but exaggerations and/or lies don't help the "cause."
Author:  NS6770fan [ Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
Faller? wrote:
This Locomotive has spent as much time in pieces as it did in revenue service!

They want you to send More Money! You can't make this stuff up!



And how long of that has FMW been involved? Yeah, new leadership won’t follow the path of the old. FMW already has brought back 148, and is in the process of working on 576 and now 1504. Both Kelly Lynch and Shawn Meador (sorry if spelling is wrong) have plenty of experience in steam, I have full faith in their entire crew.
Author:  Faller? [ Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
Mr. Mitchell IV,

You seem to have "tweaked" the dates to suit you narrative; you evidently feel so strongly, send them a few grand!

By the way; steam was done on the PRR in '56; the scored bearing happened in "87.
Author:  rem1028 [ Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
Steam lasted on the PRR until Nov. 1957

John
Author:  mldeets [ Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:39 pm ]
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FOR GOD'S SAKE HOLD THE CAMERA STILL!
Yes, I intended to yell that! I didn't have enough Dramamine to withstand more than a minute and a half of the presentation. I can stand the jump cuts to take out the "uhh's and ahh's" but if you feel you have to keep the image wobbling about to keep interest then you must have very little confidence in your speaker's ability to hold an audience. It was so distracting I could not finish the video.

I'll don the asbestos suit so you can flame away to your hearts' content............mld - a 44 year and counting broadcaster, so far 30 in television.
Author:  PMC [ Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
mldeets wrote:
FOR GOD'S SAKE HOLD THE CAMERA STILL!
Yes, I intended to yell that! I didn't have enough Dramamine to withstand more than a minute and a half of the presentation. I can stand the jump cuts to take out the "uhh's and ahh's" but if you feel you have to keep the image wobbling about to keep interest then you must have very little confidence in your speaker's ability to hold an audience. It was so distracting I could not finish the video.

I'll don the asbestos suit so you can flame away to your hearts' content............mld - a 44 year and counting broadcaster, so far 30 in television.

I am thinking that technique was popular 20 or so years ago, I remember a cop show (NYPD Blue?) with the wandering camera focus, didn't like it back then, seems contrived.
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [VIDEO] Boiler and Belpaire Firebox Walkthrough - PRR 13
Faller? wrote:
You seem to have "tweaked" the dates to suit you narrative; you evidently feel so strongly, send them a few grand!
By the way; steam was done on the PRR in '56; the scored bearing happened in "87.


According to records I have seen but cannot find, 1361 remained in service on the NY&LB until very early 1957, went to Altoona for "liquidation," and was set at the Curve in June 1957. Steam endured on the PRR on both the NY&LB until Oct. 27, 1957, on the P-RSL Nov. 12th, and out of Northumberland and Altoona until approximately Thanksgiving 1957, with the last runs being a final run with a revenue train into Altoona from Cresson with I1sa 4272 on Nov. 27th, and L1s 2369 dragging dead L1s 370 into Renovo on Dec. 2nd, 1957.

Those dates are in the handwritten diary of a late central Pa. railroad historian and ex-PRR signal technician in my possession, and are backed by extensive documentation elsewhere by PRR historians.

And the scored bearing on later-day excursion 1361 happened during its return to Altoona from YorkRail 150 on Aug. 26-28, 1988. I was there.

Arguing such facts with "slobbering Pennsy foamers that bleed Tuscan red" will never get you anywhere. >;-)
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