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| Author: | PMC [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:37 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | UP 4014 donates grates to MILW 261 | ||
https://www.facebook.com/Friendsofthe261/ UP 4014 will be oil fired and so they are surplus. Apparently by the 1940s Alco made their grates interchangeable.
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| Author: | dinwitty [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP 4014 donates grates to MILW 261 |
Thats pretty cool, perhaps you can CAD it up and make new grates. |
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| Author: | Howard P. [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP 4014 donates grates to MILW 261 |
Like so many items on steam locomotives, these are a manufactured accessory item: Firebar Unit Grates, made by Waugh Engineering. There was a competitor, Hulson, that made an almost identical item (but not interchangeable). UP specified these, and Alco installed them when the locos were built. If a grate section was damaged or burned off, the small unit could easily be changed without discarding the entire section of grate. I recall that in the early 1980s, UP sent a pallet of Waugh grate units out of 3985, to the Valley Railroad at Essex, Conn., for VRR #40. Howard P. |
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| Author: | DRS.GPBensman [ Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP 4014 donates grates to MILW 261 |
Yes, new grates can be cast. FWRHS has the pattern and almost 800 new "Fingers" are now being cast for 765 spares, a new set for Perre Marquette #1225 and a new set for Western Maryland #1309. They last for years as long as you don't dump fire from the grates, filling the ashpan and burning the grates from below. But it's a simple thing to change one or two on a bar if they break. (Even has been known to be done with a fire in the engine!) Gary P. Bensman ________________________ " There is no economy in cheaping it out!" |
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| Author: | Andrew Durden [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP 4014 donates grates to MILW 261 |
They getting rid of the stoker, too? |
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| Author: | Stationary Engineer [ Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP 4014 donates grates to MILW 261 |
The grates on the Big Boys had 12% air openings for sub-bituminous coal. Is that a big deal, I don't know. I watched a video of a cab ride on the 261, they had to have a second fireman just to constantly trim the back corners of the firebox. Maybe, they could use a different stoker. I don't know, but they may have already fixed the problem by now. |
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