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| Author: | softwerkslex [ Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
I just discovered this railway and wondered if anyone here had anything to add. It is an example of one of those wonders that, before the internet, we just never knew about. I wish I had known. I would have made the trip just to see it. The Paranapiacaba funicular apparently connected the port city of Santos to Sao Paulo. It covered the steep mountainous midsection of the route. It was really more of a grip cable railway than a funicular. That is, more like the San Francisco cable cars. It appears (I do not speak Portuguese) that the system consisted of five cable segments with separate power houses and cable winding machinery, all steam powered to the end. The way it worked, trains were broken up into cuts of 2 or three cars and moved over the five inclines and then reassembled at the other end. Small steam dummies with cable grips moved the cuts of cars over the inclines. The steam dummies provided power to move the cuts on the flat sections in the terminals. From what I can translate, apparently there were two parallel inclines. The older incline was completely scrapped and the right of way used to construct a modern rack railway in about 1973. This modern route is electrified and whole trains can be hauled up the mountain without switching. These trains are also heavy, modern sized freight cars. The newer incline (but still 80 years old) apparently kept operating. And this I do not understand, why once the new electric route was available, they did not scrap the entire operation. Apparently a fire in the base (lowest elevation) power house shut the line down to revenue service in 1981. However, it appears the upper incline continued in tourist service for a few more years. Online images today show the line overgrown and in complete disrepair, but in place. A number of images show the steel bridges are completely rusted through, and this may have been the reason for the final abandonment. Video of the line in revenue service in 1976: https://youtu.be/JVgdBRo7TV4 Video of the line in what appears to be tourist passenger service in 1988: https://youtu.be/uQ66q2yL_30 |
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| Author: | John T [ Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
Here is what the line looks like now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GELmW_dLTJ0 |
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| Author: | p51 [ Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
Wow, talk about a poster child for the often voiced phrase, "Ride 'em while you can because you never know when it'll be gone for good..." |
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| Author: | weekendrailroader [ Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
John T wrote: I've walked on old, rotted wooden trestles before but that last one (about 10 minutes into the video), well, I don't know if I like exploring old grades THAT much... |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
Fascinating! I wonder if any of the steam dummies were preserved? From the steps and the videos, it appears that the public was invited to ride on the platforms of the little engines while they were in operation. Les |
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| Author: | 10stewi [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
My father and I took a look on google maps. If you click on the museum entry at the top of the mountain, one of the photos is a 360 degree view inside of engine shed #5 (5th cable winch house). This apparently used to be the engine shed. Inside are four locomotives in what appear to be complete shape. In another photo, there appeared to be three outside in parts condition. An 8th locomotive seems to have escaped to a preservation society somewhere in Sao Paulo state. |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
Stuart - Appreciate you and your father looking into this. Seems to be some good news. I wonder if this operation was standard gauge, or perhaps broad gauge? Les |
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| Author: | John T [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
Here is a good shot of the three wrecks: http://brazilian-coast.com/site/en/coas ... napiacaba/ |
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| Author: | softwerkslex [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
One more thought. This line had the same class of technology and age as the San Francisco cable cars. Those lines were completely worn out and were replaced with essentially a modern replica in 1984. I imagine the same age and wear affected this line and made continued operation, even in tourist service, impossible and financially unbearable. |
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| Author: | David H. Hamley [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
For the record the gauge is 63". |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brazlian cable railway, FUNICULAR DE PARANAPIACABA |
David H. Hamley wrote: For the record the gauge is 63". Thanks David. Les |
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