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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:02 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton | ||
As reported in both a thread on a NYO&W caboose and in a TV report in "Flimsies," former New York, Ontario & Western 44-tonner 105 has finally departed Winslow Junction, NJ for its new home at Steamtown in Scranton, Pa. Photo supplied by NRHS regional VP and trucking company Daily Express VP-ops Mark Eyer.
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| Author: | Andrew Durden [ Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
Enjoy those D17000's! |
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| Author: | Otto Vondrak [ Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
According to "NYO&W in the Diesel Age," both 101 and 105 were sold through a dealer to the Salt Lake, Garfield & Western in 1951. No. 101 became DS-2, was eventually stripped for parts, and later acquired by the Western Railway Museum. 105 remained on the SLGW property until at least 1993 or 1994. When was 105 acquired by Adirondack Scenic? When did it leave Adirondack for SRNJ? -otto- |
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| Author: | Richard Glueck [ Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
Is this for restoration, or to join Steamtowns sterling collection of operating Diesels? |
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| Author: | trainspot [ Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
Otto Vondrak wrote: When was 105 acquired by Adirondack Scenic? When did it leave Adirondack for SRNJ? -otto- I took this in June 2005 after arrival at SRNJ: http://trainspot.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=829983 It left Salt Lake sometime after 2000 according to photos I found, maybe someone knows exactly when? One sister survives in Georgia, #104. |
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| Author: | robertjohndavis [ Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
Two sisters to #105 in GA and CA. What's important to understand is that #105 is not joining the Steamtown collection. She is one of many independent preservation projects that call Steamtown home (either permanently or temporarily). We can pick nits all day long, but Steamtown has become a nexus for preservation including the diesel history of the anthracite railroads. Scranton itself has become the most active pocket of railroad presevation in the US. Steamtown, the Delaware-Lackawanna, the Anthracite Railroads Historical Society, the Erie Lackawanna Diner Preservation Society, the Electric City Trolley Museum, the Lackawanna & Wyoming Valley RRHS and the Tri-State NRHS have all been active in presevation - in many cases in collaborative efforts. Now the O&W Historical Society has a role and CNJ #113 is expected soon. And that's not even including the fledgling Iron Horse Society. #105 is just the latest preservation story to come to Scranton. Rob |
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| Author: | superheater [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
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| Author: | superheater [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
Moved to Steamtown today, courtesy of the Delaware Lackawanna. |
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| Author: | Walter [ Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
I was ARHS President when we negotiated the partnership with Kip. That was driven in part by the NRHS 2010 Convention. Most of the work was learning the procedures for dealing with the NPS, spelling out expectations in writing, and working to meet them as best as possible. Flexibility is not something the Gov't is known for, but you can program some of it into your agreements. Debbie helped us modify our original Usage Permit, which was fairly restrictive, to one which was more suited to our situation there. It's good to see that other groups are now building on what we helped to start. I think it makes sense for smaller restoration groups to combine their efforts whenever possible, and I'm looking forward to seeing the 113 run there, hopefully in the near future. I remember the 105 from it's time on the SRNJ, and just re-discovered some slides I had taken down there. Will have to check on the date later, since they're at home and not scanned. |
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| Author: | superheater [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
Walter, many of us are very glad you successfully pioneered this type of partnership, and that it still endures. Thanks for your efforts. Looking forward to an ABA set of F's.... |
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| Author: | Walter [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NYO&W 44-Tonner 105 Moved from NJ to Scranton |
Superheater, C. Davis (Dave) Palmer and Rich Jahn deserve most of the credit. They were the 'onsite' people for the required meetings. Dave was ARHS 2nd VP for much of my second presidential term, and has been a true force behind much of our restoration efforts, both organizationally and financially. He doesn't like the spotlight, but I think it's important to recognize him, publically. And Rich, is, well, Rich.....for those who know him. For those who don't, he's the CMO and has led our work sessions for many years. Roy Zeiher, who passed last year, held that position for many years while our work sites varied from Swedeland (near W. Conshy), New Hope, Jim Thorpe, and Winslow NJ. I wasn't a member during the Reading Shops period, as I was still in college and hadn't heard of the ARHS, but Roy was there, too. His slides show the process of transplanting a prime mover into an old, beat-up F-3, from an old, beat-up converted F7 (CF7). When we first moved to Steamtown and had a clean, indoor working environment with compressed air and electricity, we were amazed at how much more we were able to accomplish as opposed to 'working in the dirt' and using gas-powered air and electric generators. Not having to set up and tear down scaffolding and ladders saved at least an hour per session, which we could add as productive work time. It was definitely worth the paperwork, IMO. -W |
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