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| Author: | j32885 [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Chippewa Valley Coaches |
I would some Info on CV (ex AC/CP) passenger cars in Dennison, OH. Chippewa Valley Coaches http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiv ... x?id=74607 More important is who currently owns them...Dennison Railroad Depot Museum, G&W/Ohio Central, or Age Of Steam Roundhouse? Got a video of them recently along with C&O 2700 coming back from Streamliners At Spencer. |
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| Author: | j32885 [ Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
Here's a video I've have taken of the passenger cars in question: Dennison Railroad Depot Museum (Rolling Stock), 05-31-2014 #2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V2hpTx7u14 Enjoy! ^_^ NOTE: Title of this YT video could change IF any of you passenger car epanodos/experts can provide additional information to this thread. |
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| Author: | o anderson [ Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
Perhaps related remotely, but not directly, are the two Chippewa Valley Railroad coaches which were built by Sandley Light Railway Equipment Works in the 1950s and served the 15" gauge Hoot Toot and Whistle in Elgin IL before this 16" gauge operation in Eau Clare.  http://www.chippewavalleyrailroad.com/ |
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| Author: | ctjacks [ Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
As far as I know, the Dennison Depot now owns all 6 of these cars. I can say for sure that Ohio Central/Age of Steam/G&W are not involved with them in any way. They are ex-CP home-built cars, also ex-Algoma Central Snow Train. Chris. |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
o anderson wrote: Perhaps related remotely, but not directly, are the two Chippewa Valley Railroad coaches which were built by Sandley Light Railway Equipment Works in the 1950s and served the 15" gauge Hoot Toot and Whistle in Elgin IL before this 16" gauge operation in Eau Clare. http://www.chippewavalleyrailroad.com/ Olin - My ignorance of small scale rail systems is going to show here, but please help me out. On the coach and caboose (and maybe even the gon), how is entry to the cars made? Are they "open" on the side away from the camera, or are there side doors of some type? I apologize for not knowing and for asking the question on this "real" Chippewa Valley coaches thread. Les |
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| Author: | o anderson [ Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
The Sandley smaller coaches loaded from one side only, with a door visible in the photo. The end doors were usually static and non-opening. It is interesting that for the 2' gauge equipment they built for Brookfield Zoo, the end doors were also non-operating and the platforms were under sized for actual use. People just loaded on the bench seats from either side of the car with a chain to keep passengers inside. I don't know anything about the other Chippewa Valley Railroad cars including the gondola or caboose pictured in the photo. It is my understanding that this group engaged in steam restoration at many different scales. O. |
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| Author: | Rainier Rails [ Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
General History: These 6 cars were built by CP as 68 seat divided coaches, of a total of 99 such cars (#2200-#2298) which were completed from shells built by both CC&F (83 shells) and NSC (16 shells), which were delivered to CP for completion between 1947 and 1949. Algoma Central acquired 18 of these cars between 1971 and 1973 as #415-#432. AC acquired a 19th car in 1973 as a parts source. Car Histories: Both Randall and Chris VanderHeide's website (http://www.trainweb.org/algoma/proster.html) give the same car histories: CVRX #421, ex-AC #421, nee-CP #2254, acquired in 1971, completed in 1950, CC&F shell. In the RR Picture Achives album, Fred Stuckmann lists this car as nee-CP #2259. CVRX #422, ex-AC #422, nee-CP #2244, acquired in 1971, completed in 1949, CC&F shell. This is the car that was not on site when Fred Stuckmann took his photos. Current status unknown. CVRX #425, ex-AC #425, nee-CP #2268, acquired in 1972*, completed in 1950, CC&F shell. CVRX #426, ex-AC #426, nee-CP #2255, acquired in 1972*, completed in 1950, CC&F shell. CVRX #428, ex-AC #428, nee-CP #2277, acquired in 1972*, completed in 1949, CC&F shell. CVRX #429, ex-AC #429, nee-CP #2237, acquired in 1972*, completed in 1948, CC&F shell. *Randall lists these 4 cars as acquired in 1972, VanderHeide lists these 4 cars as acquired in 1973. All 6 of these cars were sold to Chippewa Valley in 1996. Sources: 1. "Streamliner Cars Volume Three: ACF - Other Builders" by W. David Randall (RPC Publications, 1982) 2. Chris VanderHeide's Algoma Central passenger car roster: http://www.trainweb.org/algoma/proster.html, which also has the dispositions and sale dates for the other 12 ex-CP #22xx-series coaches. |
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| Author: | j32885 [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
Thank You both Rainier & ctjacks! ^_^ |
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| Author: | rs2alco [ Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
Saw these coaches on the CSX line over Town St in Columbus on Saturday(Oct 24 2015) heading south. Any idea on what is up with them? |
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| Author: | ekrwy2 [ Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
I believe the Hocking Valley Scenic Railway may have purchased them. I'm 95% sure. I'll get a definite answer from a good source I have in the next day. |
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| Author: | traincrew [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
I'm not sure why the subject is being brought up again. This is the answer. Hocking Valley Scenic Railway bought the coaches from Dennison last year. They are currently on Hocking Valley property to be refurbised for use. |
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| Author: | rs2alco [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
Traincrew, The subject came up because I saw the cars on the CSX line last Sat Oct 24 crossing over W. Town St in Columbus and I wondered where they were headed. If they were already at Hocking valley last year what are they doing in Columbus? Or was there a delay in the purchase? |
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| Author: | Rainier Rails [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
rs2alco wrote: If they were already at Hocking valley last year what are they doing in Columbus? Or was there a delay in the purchase? Just an educated guess, but not necessarily a delay in purchase or that the cars have been on HVSR property before now (traincrew might have meant that the cars are now on their property after having been moved this last weekend as you witnessed); perhaps the reason that the cars were not moved before now is that it took this long to do a current COT&S (that's cleaning, oiling, testing, and stenciling) of the brake system, which must be current before any passenger car can be moved in interchange on its own wheels. |
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| Author: | traincrew [ Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chippewa Valley Coaches |
What I should have said, It takes a long time to convince CSX to move something old. It also takes several thousand dollars in shipping fees to move the cars over two different railroads. But we now have the cars. But it did take over a year to get them. All of the mechanical items were completed several months ago. We were just waiting for the paper work to be approved. |
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