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 Post subject: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:13 am 

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Found this advertisement in a tourist booklet in my Grandma's things.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:20 am 

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That run was toward the end of its USA tour. I think it got stuck there for money reasons. I saw it in Denton , Texas with a red MKT pilot engine and later in Decatur , Illinois. I don't know what railroad was the pilot then. I was 12 then and 45 years later still like all things steam. James


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:47 pm 

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I saw the original tour in New York and then again going through Trenton with a short stop on the westbound express platform. The stationmaster forgot to announce that the train (one of the SCL run throughs, I forget which) that was due 1 minute later would be on the eastbound platform. The looks of confusion were memorable. Of course my daughter had her fingers in her ears and my son wanted to know why we were not riding.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:39 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:10 pm 

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I was stationed at McClellan Air Force Base in Sacramento at that time and rode on the San Francisco Belt RR a few times behind the loco. Rare mileage and a loco I has only seen briefly when stationed in England. Memories.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:18 pm 

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I saw it going west on what was the Nickel Plate main at Bay Village, OH. A real surprise on a weekday afternoon.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:37 pm 

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One of the founders of the PM 1225 project showed me a photo he took in 1969 of 4472 at the GTW passenger station behind the (now demolished) Diamond REO plant in Lansing, Michigan. This was the last steam locomotive to operate over the GTW main line until SP 4449 in 2009.

At the British Steamtown in 1982, I got to go through one of the corridor tenders, although it was a bit inconvenient as the tank was laying on its side at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:55 pm 

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we knew about the train and chased it around on the NKP near Ft Wayne, trying to recall if I shot film or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:16 pm 

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I was just out of High School, and I remember touring the display during a weekday, so the loco wasn't steaming. Although I don't remember what the inside of the cars looked like, but I do remember we were allowed to go through the tender passageways that the crews used to change while running. I remember it was tight, and I wondered how it would be to walk them while underway with the usual car rocking. Odd, I just remember the walk-through, not the cab nor the cars. It WAS a LOOONG time ago!

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:29 pm 
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David Dewey wrote:
II remember it was tight, and I wondered how it would be to walk them while underway with the usual car rocking.
No tighter than the bombay of a B-24 or a B-17 while flying, and those guys did it with heavy flying clothing, life vests and parachute harnesses on.
Still, you have to wonder why that was such an odd thing, to have a tender configured for walk-through replacement of crews in motion.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:24 pm 

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The Flying Scotsman's run was a Non-Stop high speed run, so that's why they changed crews while running. Also, I believe she's a "hand bomber" and the fireman probably needed relieving too!

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:00 pm 

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What is the "British Steamtown"?

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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:12 pm 

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softwerkslex wrote:
What is the "British Steamtown"?


Steamtown at Carnforth, England:

http://kingarthur062.hubpages.com/hub/S ... Lancashire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnforth_MPD


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:26 pm 

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David Dewey wrote:
The Flying Scotsman's run was a Non-Stop high speed run, so that's why they changed crews while running. Also, I believe she's a "hand bomber" and the fireman probably needed relieving too!

To explain a little further:
The TRAIN of that name, scheduled for a 10 AM departure from Kings Cross, was a non-stop run for at least part of its existence. The locomotive bearing that name was only one of many with the corridor tender arrangement. The first nonstop run, with a crew change 200 miles through the 392.7-mile run, was in May 1928; the last such run was a 40th anniversary run with 4472 itself in preservation on 1st May 1968, with a rebuilt auxiliary tender (also corridor!) as a water canteen and two water troughs still serviceable for scooping water on the fly.
And, yes, every coal-burning British loco is a "hand bomber," although typically using less coal per MPH and mile than even the most miserly American locos; there have been jokes/cartoons about firing British mainline steamers literally by hand, i.e pitching lumps of coal from the tender through the fire hole without a shovel.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying Scotsman in San Francisco
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:45 pm 

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Is that efficiency a product of the British copper firebox??

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