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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Report from Facebook, with photo, indicates that Doyle McCormack's Alco PA, former Santa Fe/D&H and being restored as "Nickel Plate 190", has been "fired up" in Portland. Or at least the engine is smoking. See https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater |
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| Author: | Becky Morgan [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Honorary steam engine for the win! So much for "what's he ever going to do with that rusty old thing?" It always makes me grin when something that was a pile of bolts makes it all the way back. |
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| Author: | p51 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
GREAT! I stumbled across the shells of both PAs near Salem, in 2000, totaly by accident and took a good look. I never thought either would have a rumble coming from inside... |
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| Author: | Bobharbison [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
One of the best seminars at the Tacoma NRHS convention was Doyle's talk about how he was working on this engine and where he acquired the parts from etc. When purchased form Mexico, it was just a shell, and not a particularly good one. He sourced the other components from all over, trying to use the appropriate ones whenever possible. I seem to recall he got a bunch of stuff from BC Rail in Canada. I don't recall specifics, but I know he found some important items there. This is a top notch restoration that has been going on for a very long time. Glad to see it finally coming together. |
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| Author: | Mark Z. Yerkes [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Bobharbison wrote: One of the best seminars at the Tacoma NRHS convention was Doyle's talk about how he was working on this engine and where he acquired the parts from etc. When purchased form Mexico, it was just a shell, and not a particularly good one. He sourced the other components from all over, trying to use the appropriate ones whenever possible. I seem to recall he got a bunch of stuff from BC Rail in Canada. I don't recall specifics, but I know he found some important items there. This is a top notch restoration that has been going on for a very long time. Glad to see it finally coming together. Among other things, he got the prime mover from BC Rail. Same type of mover (251V12), but this one was made by MLW, as opposed to the original ALCO |
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| Author: | daylight4449 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Alright, I have to know, but Doyle called the PA his "money pit" when he got interviewed by LTT some time ago... Now, there's no chance in hell that this was cheap, but how deep of a pit are we talking about? Regardless of the "pitfall", I'd say the results are worth the product... |
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| Author: | Richard Glueck [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Gorgeous. Even for a Diesel. |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
daylight4449 wrote: Alright, I have to know, but Doyle called the PA his "money pit" when he got interviewed by LTT some time ago... Now, there's no chance in hell that this was cheap, but how deep of a pit are we talking about? Regardless of the "pitfall", I'd say the results are worth the product... Well, I guess it is a "money pit" IF he doesn't find a place to run it. If however, he can operate excursions behind it, or if he finds a tourist operation to run it regularly, that expenditure might make sense, even if only some of his investment is recovered. I agree, she sure is a pretty thing. Les |
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| Author: | p51 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Bobharbison wrote: One of the best seminars at the Tacoma NRHS convention was Doyle's talk about how he was working on this engine and where he acquired the parts from etc. Yeah, to this day I'm still seething that I missed this because I was asked to attend the board of director's meeting while this was going on...I was hoping that someone would have uploaded a video of this somewhere but apparently that never happened. |
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| Author: | Bobharbison [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Mark Z. Yerkes wrote: Among other things, he got the prime mover from BC Rail. Same type of mover (251V12), but this one was made by MLW, as opposed to the original ALCO Thank you. That's what I thought I recalled, but I wasn't positive and didn't want to say something only to find out later that I was incorrect. Here's a photo of the donor locomotive at Brooklyn: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=69570 |
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| Author: | Catalpa [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
I think it was the late John Rehor who declared the NKP PAs to be honorary steam engines. He'd be happy to see the 190 belching exhaust. G.F.Payne Baltimore, MD |
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| Author: | Reading 900 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Amazing! Doyle has done an incredible job bringing a smashed hulk back to life. I wonder if it will be going to the Streamliner Festival? She looks great! The only operating PA in the world, if I'm correct. Alan W. |
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| Author: | NKP1155 [ Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Can't wait to see this unit double headed with the 765! WJPowers |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Before anyone starts the foam into overdrive and demands it go hither and yon, an update from our "partners" at Trains.com: Quote: McCormack says he wanted to start and test the engine before winter set in.
McCormack says the stationary test revealed a few mechanical issues that will be repaired in the coming weeks. This winter, he'll also start working on connecting the traction motors, the air compressor and finishing the cab interior. McCormack says it will be at least one or two years before the engine is completed and able to move under its own power. After that, he says he will roll it out into the sunshine, grab a cooler of Pepsi and a lawn chair, and just look at it. |
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| Author: | Mark Z. Yerkes [ Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "NKP 190" Alco PA now running |
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote: Before anyone starts the foam into overdrive and demands it go hither and yon, an update from our "partners" at Trains.com: Quote: McCormack says he wanted to start and test the engine before winter set in. McCormack says the stationary test revealed a few mechanical issues that will be repaired in the coming weeks. This winter, he'll also start working on connecting the traction motors, the air compressor and finishing the cab interior. McCormack says it will be at least one or two years before the engine is completed and able to move under its own power. After that, he says he will roll it out into the sunshine, grab a cooler of Pepsi and a lawn chair, and just look at it. Sounds like something I'd do if I owned one lol |
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