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| Author: | o anderson [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | They bungled in the jungle & a locomotive (not breathing) |
News from Glen Houlton, from Hawaiian_Railways on yahoo groups: Quote: My friend Victor and I had been talking about going hiking. He has in the past found interesting things in the hills. Such as a coupler on the slopes of Diamond Head and railroad rails in the hills above the swamp in Kailua. Victor called me up a couple of weeks ago and said he met a guy named Steven that was also interested in hiking. Steven said he knows where there is an abandoned locomotive. I was thinking to myself "How many times have we heard that before?" Usually those kinds of comments are followed with vague descriptions and vague directions on how to find it. But this guy says he can take us to it. But it is on private property and he will need to get permission. So we set a date May 30th and Steven will see if he can get permission. We wait and we don't hear anything back. So on Saturday Victor calls Steven. Steven says he lost Victor's phone number, but everything is set up, we have permission. Victor and I meet Steven at the designated place and we get into Steven's car and drive to another place where we meet Larry. Larry is the guy "in charge". After much palaver we set off. All four of us in an ATV with Larry driving. We soon come to a shed and Larry gets out and climbs up on a front loader. This is a big front loader with 6 foot diameter tires and bucket you could park a small car in. Were off again with Steven driving the ATV and Larry leading on the front loader. Larry then attacks what turns out to be a berm. We hang back because Larry is making frequent reverse movements. Suddenly Larry is on the other side attacking a dead tree. We can't see anything of the front loader as the shrubbery is too high, but we can see the tops of the tree falling and hear the cracking of the dead wood. We still hang back until we notice the sound of the front loader is fading in the distance. We follow in the ATV to find a wide path of knocked down grass leading off down the ravine. The front loader is nowhere to be seen or heard. Soon we come to what appears to be a concrete bridge and the path leads off to the left. It soon becomes apparent we are on an old railroad right of way. http://www.hawaiianrailway.com/images/ROW.JPG After a while Steven stops and says "it's over there" pointing to the other side of the ravine. We are about 50 feet above the dry stream bed on one side and he is pointing to the other side. Steven and I go down into the stream bed through the tall grass. Now I am 6' 2" and most of the time I could not see over the grass, so I would call that tall grass. We get into the stream bed and follow it a little ways until we find a boiler. It is a very large boiler obviously not a locomotive boiler. Probably a stationary boiler. Pictures are at http://www.hawaiianrailway.com/images/boiler1.JPG http://www.hawaiianrailway.com/images/boiler2.JPG http://www.hawaiianrailway.com/images/boiler3.JPG http://www.hawaiianrailway.com/images/boiler4.JPG While I am taking pictures Steven is heading down stream and then up the side of the ravine. I don't see where he went but I can hear him thrashing through the tall grass. It is thicker in this area. He tells me to stay in the stream bed until he finds the locomotive. After a while I don't hear him any more so I holler for him. No response. I holler for Victor. No response. Uh-oh. I go back up stream. After a while and a 200 ft I get reunited with Victor and Larry, but where is Steven? Finally we make contact and get back to Steven. He found the locomotive and has pictures to prove it. And I was not there!!!! Pictures are at http://www.hawaiianrailway.com/images/locos.JPG http://www.hawaiianrailway.com/images/loco2s.JPG We are going to make another trip soon. Larry thinks there maybe an easier way in to the locomotive. Now you are going to ask me where this is. Larry said we can tell people we found it; but we can not tell where it is until he confers with his superiors. I will try to get to the locomotive and see if it fits the description of Puako as listed in Sugar Trains and document anything more that I can. I made you read through this long tortuous narrative because I had to go through a long tortuous journey to get what I got. Glen Later reports seem to confirm the engine is indeed the 24" gauge 8 ton 1902 Porter "Puako," regauged to 36" and abandoned since the 1940s. |
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| Author: | tomgears [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They bungled in the jungle & a locomotive (not breathing) |
That's pretty amazing. There are not many around to be "found" these days. Please post more information if it becomes available. |
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| Author: | J.David [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They bungled in the jungle & a locomotive (not breathing) |
Dear Glen: I heard about this locomotive the early 1990s' from Matt Austin (who posts here occationally). It is mentioned in a letter I got from Jesse C. "Jay" Conde dated 12/31/93: "The H.K.Porter at Waikele Gulch, as far as I know is the Puako Porter from the Big Island. Was later converted to a quarry engine, supposedly by OR&L Co. according to Gerry Best. Bishop Museum has several good photos of the engine. My source for this was the Josph A. Good record of Hawaiian locomotives. Joe was the Baldwin Rep. at C. Brewer & Co. from 1919 to 1941." Jay Conde wrote several books on Hawiian Railroads... I have seen other photos of the locomotive after it was abandoned. It is looking a good bit worse. J.David |
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| Author: | brandi_n_la [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They bungled in the jungle & a locomotive (not breathing) |
Can we know which island it is on currently? |
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