It is currently Sun Aug 23, 2026 9:34 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Heavy Mikados
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:58 pm 

Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:12 pm
Posts: 27
Don't forget Georgia RR #302, which survives in good shape in an Augusta museum.
While not strictly a USRA design (it is Lima 1914), it has 64" drivers, 27 x 30 cylinders and weighs 142 tons, making it one of the bigger surviving Mikes.

http://railga.com/ondispl/augloco.html


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Heavy Mikados
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:48 pm 

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:50 pm
Posts: 576
Do WP 334 at Rio Vista and C&IM 551 at NMOT count as USRA Heavy Mikes?

Rob Gardner


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Heavy Mikados
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:20 pm 

Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm
Posts: 6482
Rob Gardner wrote:
Do WP 334 at Rio Vista and C&IM 551 at NMOT count as USRA Heavy Mikes?

Rob Gardner


Rob -

I believe that C&IM 551 is a copy of a LIGHT USRA Mikado. Not sure about WP 334.

Les


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Heavy Mikados
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:27 pm 

Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:41 am
Posts: 3971
Location: Inwood, W.Va.
C&IM 551 is a copy of a USRA light 2-8-2:

http://www.stlouisnrhs.org/MOT_Treasure ... 200703.htm

WP 334 is a Western Pacific design, not USRA:

http://viewoftheblue.com/photography/ca_rwy762.html

For comparison, here's an example of a USRA heavy 2-8-2; it's a good deal chunkier than C&IM551, and its proportions are somewhat different from those of WP 334, although its overall size looks close:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USRA_Heavy_Mikado.jpg

http://www.railarchive.net/randomsteam/erie3209.htm

Again for comparison, a USRA light 2-8-2 clone--in this case, with Baker valve gear and a cast trailer, plus other detail changes. However, the basic proportions and dimensions show as a much slimmer locomotive than the heavy, with a different boiler taper, too.

http://www.railarchive.net/randomsteam/nkp636.htm

Among other things, the slimmer boiler results in a proportionally taller sand dome. That and a stronger taper leading to a slimmer forward section are the principle spotting characteristics between light and heavy USRA engines, not only of 2-8-2s, but the 4-8-2s, 2-10-2s, and the 4-6-2s.

Light 2-8-2 erection drawing:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... iagram.jpg

Heavy 2-8-2 erection drawing:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... iagram.jpg


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Heavy Mikados
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:09 am 

Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:12 pm
Posts: 213
Location: Bremerton, WA
Not heavy but USRA-related...this is from 1990 but some may not have seen this.

https://www.asme.org/getmedia/07c57eac- ... -8-2A.aspx

_________________
Locomotives are like Submarines; cylindrical, black, and use steam propulsion.


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: