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 Post subject: Re: GE 50-ton Center Cab Manuals
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:26 am 

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Sorry, all I've got is for older models.

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 Post subject: Re: GE 50-ton Center Cab Manuals
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:37 pm 

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CRHauf wrote:
I think we, Rochester & Genesee Valley Railroad Museum, can help as I think I was successful in obtaining 45-tonner manuals from the query back in 2009 along with some other manuals some of my fellow volunteers may have found/purchased since then.

Awesome! I look forward to hearing what you're able to find.

Dave wrote:
Sorry, all I've got is for older models.

Eh, no problem. Thanks for checking, at any rate!


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 Post subject: Re: GE 50-ton Center Cab Manuals
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:26 pm 

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rr-fallenflags.org has a number of manuals on their site. The server is almost always quite slow though, so you may have to be patient for a download.... http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/manual/manual.html


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 Post subject: Re: GE 50-ton Center Cab Manuals
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:38 pm 

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tyrok1 wrote:
Dave wrote:
I'll check my library when I get home. Any idea which prime movers?

Just heard back: Cummins IBH-600 (aka 220 Series)

And it looks like Western Star Rail Services does have manuals for similar models. Any other sources I can check?



Actually, HBI-600 is Cummins-ese for an "H" engine, "B" is off-road, "I" is industrial and the 600 was the old, very old way Cummins classed 6-cylinder engines. I have worked on a couple of HBI-600's, can be expressed as an H6. An HR is an H with a "revised" bore, enlarged from 4-7/8" diameter piston to 5-1/8" piston. The other referred to "220" isn't the same as an H6 or even an HR. The H engines had just 2 valves per cylinder, one intake, one exhaust. The NH (think 220) had 4 valves per cylinder, 2 each intake and exhaust. Also, their bore was 5-1/8" like the HR. Then you move to the 855 which has 5-1/2" cylinders. Oh, and to really confuse the deal, the H engine have "open" fuel pump drives and outside fuel lines.

The H line was dead circa 1970. I've chased parts over the years and stuff can be found. If you follow parts numbers forward, you'd be surprised how many of the newer parts fit the older engines. And the basic engine design Clessie did in the 1930's is still being used.

Good luck with your purchase.

Rob


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 Post subject: Re: GE 50-ton Center Cab Manuals
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:18 pm 

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Rob wrote:
Actually, HBI-600 is Cummins-ese for an "H" engine, "B" is off-road, "I" is industrial and the 600 was the old, very old way Cummins classed 6-cylinder engines.

Good info. The one thing I know is that I don't even know how much I don't know. Happy to soak up any info about this stuff that anyone can provide. :)


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 Post subject: Re: GE 50-ton Center Cab Manuals
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:02 pm 

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Sorry for the delay, but here's the info from the plate on the side (I'd assume the builder's plate, but I'm much more familiar with that term as applied to steam than diesel):

Class: B-B-100/100-2GE763 300HP
No. 32850
Date: FEB 1957


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