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 Post subject: Re: Streetcars - who likes them?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:13 am 

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Location: Somewhere east of Prescott, AZ along the old Santa Fe "Prescott & Eastern"
EJ Berry wrote:
In UK English, "trolley" sometimes refers to a small 4-wheel cart.


Or what we call a "shopping cart."

One time, in a pique of demonstrating that you can find anything on the Internet if you look hard enough, I jokingly entered "trolley porn" into several search engines with the filters turned off, testing the now-famous "Rule 34."

Let's just say most of the results were British or at least former British Empire, and that none of our traction museums in North America had apparently ever been used, even secretly or without permission, as a pornographic setting.

(Though said search of mine was several years ago.............. and I know of one traction operation that did encounter an unauthorized "lingerie fashion shoot" on its tracks a while back...... with the typical "we though these tracks were abandoned" excuse........)


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 Post subject: Re: Streetcars - who likes them?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:30 am 

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@ EJBerry : did any of those "P.C.C." streetcars that went from Cincy to Toronto survived?

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 Post subject: Re: Streetcars - who likes them?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:15 pm 

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Older Cincinnati cars are preserved, but not a PCC car.

San Francisco has painted ex-Philadelphia PCC 2138 in a tribute Cincy scheme and operates it on the Market Street Railway. This car has the standard pole base housing, not the wide one used in Cincy.

https://www.streetcar.org/streetcars/10 ... innati-oh/

Note the car has a second trolley pole, but it's at the front of the car, not next to the main pole at the rear. The second pole is used for backing up.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:46 am 

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So none that reached Toronto ... :(

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 Post subject: Re: Streetcars - who likes them?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:11 pm 

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About more then 14 years ago there was a big site with streetcars from all across U.S.A.?
Does it still exists and if so, does any one one knows the adress of it?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:50 pm 

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Preserved North American Electric Railway Cars (PNAERC) List


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:34 pm 

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When I moved to Tucson in the early 2000s, Old Pueblo Trolley operated a demonstration railway on North Fourth Avenue and University Boulevard. The two cars used in service at the time were our Kyoto streetcar No. 869 and Brussels Tramways No. 1511. We operated the cars in the evenings on Fridays, noon to midnight on Saturdays and noon to 6PM on Sundays.

I started out as a Motorman and Conductor and eventually qualified for every operating position on the railway as an instructor. The thing that set OPT aside from just about every other streetcar preservation group was that all of our right of way was in public streets with heavy traffic. What made our operation particularly challenging was that our track ran in the turn lane of two three lane streets. The Brussels tram had trolley poles and the Kyoto car operated (at different times) on our line with a pantograph or trolley poles. The Kyoto car could operate as a one man car but often had a conductor assigned. The Brussels car was mandatory two man crew as the motorman had no door controls at the rear control stand.

As our group is a member of the Heritage Rail Alliance-formerly the Association of Railway Museums, I have attended several annual meetings and had the opportunity to drive everything from a PCC to a CTA El Train. My favorites so far are the Red Arrow interurban that I got to drive at Pennsylvania Trolley Museum and the El Train at Illinois Railway Museum. The El Train was real fun as I got to drive it the length of the main line at the maximum authorized speed.

As we operated in the public right of way with traffic, we had our share of fender benders. Most were the fault of the motorist-all of the ones that I was involved with were the result of the motorist making an unsafe or illegal move. I had a taxi driver make an illegal u turn directly in front of the streetcar. With the brakes in emergency, I still hit him dead center. Fortunately, there were no injuries but the taxi was totaled. The streetcar had a couple of scratches on the paint.

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