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 Post subject: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:01 pm 

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An expanded and reformatted "GE 44-Ton Survivors" list has been uploaded to the Diesel Shop website. A date has been added to each entry so the reader knows the age of the listing. The webpage URL address is: http://thedieselshop.us/GE_Critter_Surviv.HTML.

Corrections and additions are solicited in an effort to keep the list useful.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:02 pm 

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Pacific Locomotive Assn. owns ATSF 462, not the 461.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:02 pm 

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I don't see Great Northern Railway #5201 (later #51). One of the first four examples built, she was saved in recent years and moved to the Walkersville Southern Railroad with plans for an operational restoration.

I also don't see Middletown & New Jersey Railroad #2 (Operation Toy Train in New York) listed or the recent news reflected in the notes for each unit about four organizations joining forces to restore to operation three examples of this model (and cosmetically restore a 4th).

Collaborating on the project are Operation Toy Train, Tri-State Railway Historical Society, Danbury Railroad Museum, and the Delaware & Ulster Railroad. The locomotives that will be fully restored are New Haven #0814, Middletown & New Jersey #2, and Hoboken Manufacturers Railroad #700.

The unit that will contribute the parts to accomplish this is Western Maryland #76, which will then be cosmetically restored as a New York, Ontario and Western unit.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:27 pm 

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Folks,
The Western Railway Museum at Rio Vista has several GE Diesels:

The Salt Lake, Garfield & Western D.2 ex New York Ontario & Western #101. The 44-ton Diesel was built by GE in 1941 as the c/n 15028.

The Sacramento Northern #146 is a 44-ton Diesel built by GE in 1946 as the c/n 28336.

The Moffat Naval Air Station L-2 is a 45-ton Diesel built by H.K. Porter in 1942 as the c/n 7394. It was de-accessioned, but is being held for parts.

The Central California Traction 30 is a 70-ton Diesel built by GE im 1947 as the c/n 28512.

Ted Miles, WRM Archives Dept


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:07 am 

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Two survive in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_79_class_locomotive


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:21 am 

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Lowville & Beaver River #1947, built 4/1947, builder number 28345, is at the old L&BR engine house in Lowville, NY.

Lowville & Beaver River #1950, formerly Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis #101 and L&N #310, was sold to the Belfast & Moosehead Lake Railway in Maine in 2018.

Lowville & Beaver River #1951, ex-Skaneatles Short Line #6, is in Utica, NY at the Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern's shops being restored to operation.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 am 

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NYO&W #105 is at Steamtown NHS in Scranton, PA, undergoing restoration


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:06 am 

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Boyne City Railroad #70, now at Coastal Logistics in Savannah, Georgia is missing from the list.

#70 was built for the BCRR in September, 1950 (I don't have its b/n) and served on that line (and its successor Boyne Valley RR) until it was sold when the entire line was auctioned off in the late 1970s.

In its post-BCRR career, it was used in the Chicago area (by R.R. Donnelly, I believe), then ended up at the Indiana Transportation Museum painted as "NKP #91" before being sold to Coastal Logistics, a Savannah paper warehouse, around 2018.

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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:26 pm 

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To all those contributors who provided corrections and addition, thank you !


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:54 pm 

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In the "prompting a reminder" category:

White Deer RR Museum, White Deer, Pa. has a chain-drive GE 45-tonner from a Harrisburg, Pa.-area steel mill.

Walkersville Southern picked up the GE 45-tonner from AC&F in Milton, Pa. a short while back, and it's in service.

If we disregard or modify the "built prior to 1956" restriction:
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KCC #801, 35-Ton locomotive was built by General Electric in September 1957 with Builder number 33104. KCC 801 and 802 were purchased by Kennecott but lettered as Western Knapp Engineering number 1 and 2, working at Hayden, Arizona, while Western Knapp was building the Hayden smelter in 1957; lettered for Kennecott in 1958. KCC 801 was used at the Hayden smelter for slag disposal service; when slag disposal was no longer required after the smelter process was changed in mid 1970s the unit was rebuilt and painted in Bicentennial red-white-blue and used for general in-plant switching. It moved to the adjacent ASARCO smelter after Kennecott sold Ray Mines Division to ASARCO in 1986. It was listed as still in service as of 2014. The Jake Jacobson acquired the locomotive in 2017. Copper Basin folks rebuilt and repainted the locomotive to pristine condition prior to donation to the Arizona Railway Museum. The chain drive was removed for transport by rail to the museum. It moved from Hayden to Magma Junction on September 20. The Union Pacific then moved it from Magma Jct. to McQueen Jct. on September 22. Union Pacific moved the locomotive from McQueen Junction to the museum September 25, 2017. The drive chain has been re-installed and the engine is operational.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:00 pm 

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Its not a 44 ton as your subject is asking for, but since I don't see it on the list the Nevada State Railroad Museum, Boulder City has Locomotive L-3, a GE 80 Ton.

https://nevadasouthern.com/equipment/locomotive-l3/

It also has Locomotive L-2 a GE-25 Ton.

https://nevadasouthern.com/equipment/locomotive-l-2/

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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:55 am 

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Former ACF #8 is at Lowville NY.
There are two Navy 44-tonners (?) at the Navy yard at Kittery, Maine. I think both are for sale. I don't know the numbers.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:36 pm 

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There are two Navy 44-tonners (?) at the Navy yard at Kittery, Maine. I think both are for sale. I don't know the numbers.

The two locomotives at Naval Shipyard Portsmouth, NH, next door to Kittery, ME, are USN 65-00308 and USN 65-00566, built in 1945 and 1943, respectively. They are listed as 65-ton locomotives, not 44-tons. It has been a very long time since any branch of the military has had 44-ton locomotives, and even the 65-tons are fairly rare. Most centercabs are 80-tons but they're frequently mistaken for 44-tons.

I think at least one of these NSY Portsmouth locomotives has already been sold. The Navy is replacing its old GE centercabs with car movers at its bases that still have active internal railway systems.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:40 pm 

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#27501 25Ton B GE C/N 27501 02-22-44 D/E 150hp
US Army #7769 Ft. Richardson, AK Alaska RR #100 > #50
Schnitzer Steel #1872 Portland, OR 1961
Northwest Steel Rolling Mills #27501 Seattle, WA
(here with no # 1968)
Salmon Bay Steel Corp. Seattle, WA 1986
Oregon Electric Ry Historical Society Brooks, OR 1995/96
http://oerhs.org/oerhs/roster/photos/ot ... loco05.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: Roll Call for GE 44-Ton Survivors
PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:56 pm 

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Here are the GE centercabs at the Rochester & Genesee Valley Railroad Museum in Rush, NY:

- GE 45 Ton 13057 Built 8/41 for GE Riverworks, Survives as Rochester Gas & Electric #1941 (You have this one listed, but the build date is off one month.)

- GE 45 Ton 30487 Built 4/50 as Quebec Iron & Titanium #3, Survives as Rochester Gas & Electric #1950

- GE 80 Ton 28477 Built 7/46 as Eastman Kodak #6, Survives as Eastman Kodak #6

- GE 80 Ton 31361 Built 8/52 as US Army 1654, Survives as Rochester & Genesee Valley #54

- GE 110 Ton 28477 Built 10/67 as General Electric #8, Survives as Rochester Gas & Electric #8

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