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 Post subject: Re: Police seeking public’s help in Adirondack RR derailment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:48 pm 

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SD70dude wrote:
On high mast switches, even if you only remove the lock the vibration from the train can cause the handle to rise up and out of its slot, and the points can then open under the train. This is why switches without locks always have 'keepers', little metal hooks that you leave in the hole on the top of the handle.

VIA had a very similar derailment in Nova Scotia in 2001
The old Heber Creeper suffered from this type of vandalism circa 1990. Someone had broken the switch lock and raised the handle, and the engineer (looking past #1744 very long tender) didn't spot the raised handle until it was too late.

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 Post subject: Re: Police seeking public’s help in Adirondack RR derailment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:43 pm 

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J3a-614 wrote:
There wasn't the antagonism we see now, there wasn't a trail movement that envied our track as we have now..


sorry to be a spelling enforcer, but you misspelled "coveted our rights-of-way."


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 Post subject: Re: Police seeking public’s help in Adirondack RR derailment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:06 pm 

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This thread should serve as reminder to all that most derailments occur at switches and that regular inspections to ensure that they are in adjustment and good working order is important. My experience with them seems to be that switches need adjustment at least twice a year, at the onset of warm weather and again when the weather cools off. YMMV.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:27 pm 

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All main track switches need to be equipped with high security locks. Perhaps spike unused/seldom used switches and DON'T leave a spike puller laying around!


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 Post subject: Re: Police seeking public’s help in Adirondack RR derailment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:15 pm 

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Yup, if you don’t lock or at least pin those high stands, the lever can possibly work it’s way up out of the slot. I did forget to mention in my previous post that on your typical low stand there are, or should be, foot operated keepers or latches either on the head blocks or, on some newer ones, the stand itself to hold the arm in a locked position. If properly latched, the throw bar can’t move even without a padlock. In the hopefully rare instance that you don’t have latches, you’re begging for a derailment in very short order.

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 Post subject: Re: Police seeking public’s help in Adirondack RR derailment
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:25 am 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
J3a-614 wrote:
There wasn't the antagonism we see now, there wasn't a trail movement that envied our track as we have now..


sorry to be a spelling enforcer, but you misspelled "coveted our rights-of-way."


I won't complain---there are worse things in the world!


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