Durango & Silverton 493

J3a-614 · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:07 pm

She's alive!! Liquid diet, but alive!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzLuIN97qDw

Dave Lewandoski · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:58 pm **Posts:** 1061

magnificent job!

Frisco1522 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:07 am

I don't have any photos of the 490s in service, but is that where the injectors were located "back in the day"? Looks awfully strange. Maybe I just never noticed.

Kelly Anderson · **Posted:** Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:27 pm

The 490's used Simplex lifting injectors on the Rio Grande.

I am thrilled as always to see a new steam locomotive returned to operation! Even more so, since this is one that I never expected to see restored.

CA1 · **Joined:** Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:17 pm **Posts:** 246

Are the non lifting injectors throttle-able at all like some lifting sellars are?
Wonder if any NG locomotives had FWHs or exhaust steam injectors ?

Great to see the 493 back in steam! looking forwarding to seeing test run videos.

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:04 am

If you count 1067mm gauge (3'6") the larger Japanese engines have Elesco-type FWH's. New Zealand Ka and Kb 4-8-4's have FWH's. I had the pleasure of seeing JNR D51 2-8-2's in service in Northern Honshu and Hokkaido.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxfWNDUO2A0

Phil Mulligan

Kelly Anderson · **Posted:** Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:12 pm

CA1 wrote:

Are the non lifting injectors throttle-able at all like some lifting sellars are?
Wonder if any NG locomotives had FWHs or exhaust steam injectors ?

Yes, Non-lifting injectors can be throttled by partially closing the suction line water valve.

Regarding FWH, the Mexican 2-6-6-2's had them.

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J3a-614 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:03 pm

A PR announcement on the 493:

https://www.prlog.org/12807950-dsngrr-a ... rsion.html

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:30 am

Interesting release. I think the K-37's were too big to run to Crested Butte; I recall that K-27's were the biggest engines that could go there.

There was an Anthracite mine on that branch, the biggest Anthracite mine West of Treverton PA.

Phil Mulligan

softwerkslex · **Posted:** Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:35 am

Interesting - we saw 473 last October on the second train into Silverton. So that was the last time we would see it burning coal.

suprememeowmix · **Posted:** Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:46 am

EJ Berry wrote:

Interesting release. I think the K-37's were too big to run to Crested Butte; I recall that K-27's were the biggest engines that could go there.

There was an Anthracite mine on that branch, the biggest Anthracite mine West of Treverton PA.

Phil Mulligan

I always thought the mines at Lykens were farther west than Trevorton’s, and a bit larger too, I guess not

xboxtravis7992 · **Joined:** Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:33 am **Posts:** 188

Would make an interesting event for a photo charter or something to dress it up as a Oahu Railway engine, since those Hawaiian 2-8-2's were basically oil burning K-28 derivatives.

Kelly Anderson · **Posted:** Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:04 pm

xboxtravis7992 wrote:

Would make an interesting event for a photo charter or something to dress it up as a Oahu Railway engine, since those Hawaiian 2-8-2's were basically oil burning K-28 derivatives.

There were lots of cosmetic differnces, the biggest being that the Hawaiian engines had the air compressors on the boiler side, not the smokebox front. It would be a big job to make one look the part.

MD Ramsey · **Joined:** Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:52 pm **Posts:** 161

EJ Berry wrote:

Interesting release. I think the K-37's were too big to run to Crested Butte; I recall that K-27's were the biggest engines that could go there.

There was an Anthracite mine on that branch, the biggest Anthracite mine West of Treverton PA.

Phil Mulligan

K-37's were the primary power on the Crested Butte branch during the 1930's and 40's. A tremendous amount of coal was moved from the CF&I Mine to Salida/Pueblo during WW11.

MD Ramsey

xboxtravis7992 · **Joined:** Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:33 am **Posts:** 188

Kelly Anderson wrote:

xboxtravis7992 wrote:

Would make an interesting event for a photo charter or something to dress it up as a Oahu Railway engine, since those Hawaiian 2-8-2's were basically oil burning K-28 derivatives.

There were lots of cosmetic differnces, the biggest being that the Hawaiian engines had the air compressors on the boiler side, not the smokebox front. It would be a big job to make one look the part.

It looks like DRGW 493 has its compressors on the side too. If anything really would make 493 not look the part, its the tender doghouse. The summer pilot instead of the winter pilot though would go a long way in making 493 look more like its Hawaiian siblings. Still, it wouldn't be a perfect replication; but enough to look kind of similar.

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