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 Post subject: Narrow gauge Electrics
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:34 pm 

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Crown Zellerbach had a 3 foot gauge road at their Camas, WA paper mill. Three of the electric locos went to a museum in Wisconsin. Does anyone know which museum and what happened to them? Here is what I have:

#4 “OLD FRANK” GE C/N 9540 04-24 10 tons 30” dr E
Crown Willamette Paper
Crown Zellerbach Corp. #4
rebuilt by GE 1951
NRHS Pacific Northwest Chapter Glenwood, OR 1982
Mike Schlag Salem, OR 1997
Unknown museum in Wisconsin

#6 GE C/N 28446 06-25-46 13 tons 31” dr E
Crown Zellerbach Corp. #6
NRHS Pacific Northwest Chapter Glenwood, OR 1982
Mike Schlag Salem, OR 1997
Unknown museum in Wisconsin 2006

#7 GE C/N 32591 06-25-56 13 tons 31” dr E
Crown Zellerbach Corp. #7
NRHS Pacific Northwest Chapter Glenwood, OR 1982
Mike Schlag Salem, OR 1997
Unknown museum in Wisconsin 2006
For Sale 2012


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow gauge Electrics
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:51 am 

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A colleague confirms the locomotives are at the Colfax Railroad Museum in Wisconsin.

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow gauge Electrics
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:21 pm 

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You are partially correct. Numbers 6 & 7 are at the Colfax Railroad Museum, Colfax, WI. We really appreciate the construction info. We had not been able to locate that data. Our website is: www.colfaxrrmuseum.org
Herb Sakalaucks
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 Post subject: Re: Narrow gauge Electrics
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:37 pm 

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Thank you Wesley and Herb. If #6 & 7 are at Colfax what happened to #4? The late Mike Schlag told me that all three had gone to Wisconsin. For the story on these little beasts see: https://www.pnwc-nrhs.org/Trainmaster19 ... 997-02.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow gauge Electrics
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:16 pm 

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There may be a bit of fuzzy memory involved here. Many years ago, Mike Schlag said the 1930s era locomotive and line car (unpowered work car) were sold to a Roy Rehmke in the Sacramento area. His name is associated with a rubber company in Manteca.
http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,110261,110333#msg-110333

The article mentions 4 locomotives were at Glenwood. I wonder where the fourth is located?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:51 pm 

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You are absolutely right. Mike owned three of the electrics, not four. See:
http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php ... msg-110266
That lease #4 still missing.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:20 pm 

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While we're on this subject, does anyone know what happened to the builder's plates for #6&7? We would like to locate those for our restoration effort. Lacking that. Were they cast or stamped steel? And any source available for reproduction of them?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:40 pm 

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Here is an in service shot of #7.

https://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Reco ... E7898C56CB


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:00 pm 

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The pantograph looks larger than the locomotive! Thanks for posting the photo John T.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:36 pm 

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Thanks for all the information. One of the electrics is still missing:

#4 “OLD FRANK” GE C/N 9540 04-24 10 tons 30” dr E
Crown Willamette Paper
Crown Zellerbach Corp. #4
rebuilt by GE 1951
NRHS Pacific Northwest Chapter Glenwood, OR 1982
Oregon Electric Ry Museum Glenwood, OR 1982
NRHS Pacific Northwest Chapter Glenwood, OR 1997

When the trolley museum moved to Brooks the four narrow gauge locos were disposed of.


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow gauge Electrics
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:03 am 

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From a company newspaper, 1983.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:20 am 

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Three of us visited the Camas mill in 1982. All of the wire was down and most of the equipment was setting in the yard. The only thing moving was the Plymouth which was being used to switch flat cars into loading bays in the buildings. These were then decked over to provide floor space. It is possible that these cars are still there.


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