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Author: | NVPete [ Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:33 am ] | ||
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I finally found a smoking gun picture in Fmnut's Reading Shops video so many thanks to him for putting it in there. Woodfield Green is the same color as Chevy Truck Seacrest Green...
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Author: | NVPete [ Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:42 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo | ||
Then, the Reading's original factory cab loco green would have be the equivalent of GMC Narva Green...
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Author: | NVPete [ Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:39 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo | ||
What's Narva Green supposed to look like? Well, that depends... LOL
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Author: | NVPete [ Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:54 pm ] | ||
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Fmnut posted up a remastered version of the Reading Shops video about ten months ago with additional material including information concerning those cab models. Apparently, they were constructed by the guys in the shop in early 1956 as training aids for the engineers and are covered at around ten minutes into the presentation... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CJV8m1aioU We now know for sure the cab models at the RRMPA are more than a valid source of correct color information so it would be well worth the price of admission to check them again. I didn't notice the rain deflector on the roof the last time I was there, though. Nice touch!!!...
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Author: | EJ Berry [ Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo |
I believe Reading Co. was the only road that installed these rain gutters on their Road and Yard Switchers. Phil Mulligan |
Author: | NVPete [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:10 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo | ||
Yeah Phil, and afterward, they make a great spotting feature for identifying Reading engines in Conrail blue and wherever else they may have ended up. Since I can't seem to shake off the blues at the moment, the most likely color used on the maintenance vehicles is DuPont 3430 Chevy Export Blue, a.k.a. NYC Opex Blue and what I suspect is also the Reading's Crusader Blue...
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Author: | NVPete [ Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:09 pm ] | ||
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Perhaps the Reading Transport Company's blue as well but I haven't looked too hard at that one yet. With Export Blue, I might be getting that one mixed up with newer versions of 1032 Federal Truck Seafoam Blue so we'll just stick to the numbers, the General Motors code being WE5668. In the Imron era, 93-3430 Chevrolet Truck Export Blue becomes DuPont 7165. Here is the link to the mixing formulas on the Northstar site where it is called "Pepsi Blue". You'll find the modern Axalta and other codes if you poke around a bit... http://www.mixmaster.biz/v_formulas/Sys ... &code=7165 General Motors WE5802 Blue was the closest match to the color on Conrail #2233 at the RRMPA. This is what it looks like compared to WE5668, the darker of the two...
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Author: | NVPete [ Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:27 pm ] | ||
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The Metra out there in Chicagoland uses WE5802 Blue. On PaintRef, it's the dark blue listed for North Suburban Mass Transit... https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcoded ... IL&rows=50 This color is also listed for the Lehigh Portland Cement Company. Those three blues may all be identical but with each of the Big Three's individual corresponding code numbers... https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcoded ... ny&rows=50 Conrail painted their step edges white like the Metra unit. That yellow kind of throws the whole thing off, huh?... LOL
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Author: | NVPete [ Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:35 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo | ||
General Motors WE5802 Blue is slightly darker than DuPont 77257 Blue, the EMD demonstrator color, and this picture taken at the 1989 factory open house pretty much confirms what I'm seeing here first-hand with the samples...
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Author: | NVPete [ Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:14 pm ] | ||
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Happy Black Friday, everyone!!! LOL An early-seventies DuPont Fiat paint chip sheet arrived here on Wednesday. General Motors WE5802 is the equivalent of DuPont 8748, Fiat 497 Cannes Blue or "Blu Cannes" in foreignspeak. On the left, we see the matchup between GM WE5802 and DuPont 8748. In the middle is the comparison between WE5802 and the current paint on Conrail #2233 at the RRMPA. On the right is WE5802 vs. the modern Imron-era version of this color, DuPont/Axalta K9359. Here it is on the Northstar site. An alternate code number for K9359, and currently used by Axalta on their website, is N1728. http://www.mixmaster.biz/v_formulas/Sys ... code=N1728 This is actually a fairly decent demonstration of how this color has shifted slightly over the years. There's 77257 Blue directly above K9359 Blue. 5240 Bright Medium Blue is the former 1032 Federal Truck Seafoam Blue and 7165 Blue, the former 3430 Chevy Truck Export Blue...
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Author: | NVPete [ Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:38 pm ] | |||
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Conrail Blue is now officially listed on PaintRef. It wasn't before... https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcoded ... rp&rows=50 Ditzler/PPG calls this color Bright Blue or Mediterranean Blue. In 1975, Fiat introduced a different color called Mediterranean Blue with the factory code of 487 so beware of that because, well, it's not the same. The Martin-Senour number I have for General Motors WE5802 is 11536. Maritime-Ontario in Canada uses the same Dodge Truck code as Lehigh Cement, DT8488, leading me to believe we'll find Conrail Blue up there as well... https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcoded ... +Transport https://duckduckgo.com/?q=maritime-onta ... &ia=images Anyway, the older pre-Imron version is somewhat less vivid, slightly lighter, and perhaps tinted a bit greener...
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Author: | NVPete [ Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:35 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo | ||
Here's the big trade show binder full of Imron I picked up earlier in the year, by the way, just in case any of you guys were wondering where those chips suddenly came from. No railroad finish-specific information, of course, but pretty much everything else including aviation, big trucks, emergency apparatus, and farm implements although perhaps the best part might be some of the cross-reference material which was also included. That thing pretty much doubled the size of my pile... LOL
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Author: | NVPete [ Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:51 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo | ||
The EMD blue, DuPont 77257, dates back at least to 1964 according to PaintRef. The chip is present in my 1967 Dulux fleet selector catalog as 93-77257... https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetai ... t=93-77257 I don't have a decent match for this one in the fan deck so we'll have to leave that go for now. Back to Conrail Blue, everything we've seen here seems to jive with the Trains article concerning the color. Toward the end, they were using a two-stage Imron system... https://cs.trains.com/trn/b/staff/archi ... -blue.aspx In the big binder full of Imron, the 5000 line is single-stage and the 6000 line is two-stage. This 1969 Fiat was repainted in a modern two-stage system... https://smclassiccars.com/fiat/561201-g ... style.html Around and under the "hood", we can see both the old and the new...
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Author: | NVPete [ Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:56 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo | ||
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the same Dark Brewster Green Conrail put on the OCS, not the true Pullman Car Color as on the Great Northern... LOL
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