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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:03 am 

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Now, there's a strong chance the Reading's caboose red matches that of the ALAC heralds on the hopper cars once you see them together. The caboose on the right looks like it's in the process of being washed...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:13 pm 

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I'm still on the lookout for a good Reading Anthracite sign I can check for the red since I do believe that color was coordinated with the railroad. Until then, Suburban Propane is historically a heavy user of 2622 Scarlet. The tank color is listed in the 1963 reference as either 246-53001 or 93-2737 Cream.

This picture was apparently taken later around the time Suburban was transitioning from cream to white. 93-508 White seems to be the most common fleet white both on and off the railroads so we'll be looking at that once I get into the 1967 chip catalog as well...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:24 am 

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A point to remember is that P&R RR and P&R Coal & Iron separated 1-1-1925. The P&R RR merged itself with the holding company and became Reading Company.

P&R Coal and Iron became independent and is still in the coal trade under the same name.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:21 am 

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Yeah Phil, any time I look at their website, it gives me the munchies for coal-fired pizza...

https://readinganthracite.com/anthracit ... staurants/

There is an old sign down at the RRMPA I can try to match up if I can't find one here in the immediate Lebanon area. Hopefully, it isn't too faded...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:46 am 

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Squirt Red is 2622 Scarlet as shown here on this promotional thermometer dating from 1963...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:17 am 

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Okay, enough of the Scarlet already although I am quite fond of grapefruit soda. LOL

The Bessemer & Lake Erie's cars might be Dodge Truck Terra Cotta. I think the C&O's were the same color as the Reading's but I'd still have to verify that...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:17 am 

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The B&LE boxcar shown with the large monogram was orange when it was clean. Nothing like C&O’s “boxcar red”. It was possibly the same as the locomotive orange which was DuPont acrylic 826Y-95204. I haven’t verified that color on the boxcars, however.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm 

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Thanks, Eric!!! I did increase the saturation level on that picture a little bit but apparently not enough. The B&LE is largely uncharted territory for me so I attempted to quickly catch up in the last couple of days. The oranges are easy to avoid in a Reading thread and I wasn't paying much attention to the freight car colors until that blasted Northern Pacific chip showed up at my house and ended up matching Mahogany Brown. Can't do that now. LOL

Bessemer's locomotive orange is fairly similar the Milwaukee Road's which is the obvious paint scheme comparison there. K4 Decals has a decent CG rendering of the freight car colors on this page...

https://k4decals.com/products/bessemer- ... ecal-ble40

I'm seeing more of a lighter burnt orange-type color of which I do have couple chips that could match it. The darker rust color is the one I was attempting to look at here.

The left-hand door on the boxcar and that gondola might be the darker rust color, either a black car getting rusty or a rust-colored car turning black. I'd say a rust-colored car turning black...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:11 pm 

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I'm just laughing to myself right now because this is how it begins...

Mr. Rogerson's collection might offer some clues...

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiv ... x?id=39274

There's a different gondola spotted in front of the WM hopper in this pic and SD-7 #454 makes an appearance...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:08 am 

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Could be General Motors WE5899, Eric, but then, we're just getting started here. LOL The slightly more orangey GM WE5898 would the next choice...

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetail ... ode=WE5899

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetail ... ode=WE5898


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:42 am 

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WE5899 is the old GMC Inca Gold, DuPont 93-20526, so I was wondering why it looked familiar since I had mentioned it earlier. Inca Gold looks like orange-tinted 014 Imitation Gold and I was thinking about attempting to place it on the Rio Grande which I haven't gotten around to yet. No chip match for WE5898 as of yet, however.

Because the PaintRef scans of Dodge Truck Terra Cotta and GMC Seminole Brown look a bit skewed to me, here are mine along with Chevy Truck Coppertone and GMC Mahogany Brown to the left...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:16 am 

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Earlier on in the summer, I did do a couple of the Milwaukee Road oranges over here in Buzz's thread...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45803

I guess I should go back in there and denote the colors we were looking at in that last fan deck picture I posted of all the cards labeled as Orange. WE5899 is the sixth card from the lower left and WE5898 is the eighth.

Well, the good news this morning is WE5898 has now been identified. Ford offered the color on their trucks in 1975 and called it Parrot Orange...

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetail ... nt=43404DH

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedi ... tzler=2685


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:57 am 

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And then I thought, why not just make it a little bigger and post it again here? LOL The second from the lower left is Dodge Truck Bahama Yellow and the seventh is 93-1021 which matches the orange striping and lettering color 95-017. Omaha Orange is not included but if it was, it would most likely be positioned as the tenth card from the left where WE5896, a slightly darker fleet color known as Orange Yellow, is located now...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:25 pm 

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Phil made me hungry for scrapple... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:31 pm 

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Anyway, I could see Inca Gold being the DRGW's Aspen Gold and perhaps even the Parrot Orange turning out to be the later Anschutz Orange. Both colors do photograph similarly in the sun. Here they are in front of my Aloe plant just in case I burn myself again with this one...


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