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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:22 pm 

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Another last-minute save out of Noblesville is ex-Amtrak 8091, ex SCL 5961, ex-ACL "Naples", a rare Pullman-Standard 1957 diner with an all-stainless steel superstructure. This car is scheduled to be trucked out first week of November.


Do we have a listing of what remains at Noblesville?


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:24 pm 

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NS 3322 wrote:
Do we have a listing of what remains at Noblesville?

The most notable things I think are the four Milwaukee Road F units, three A units and one B unit. I don't know what happened to the Baldwin switcher.


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
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The only F left in Noblesville is NKP painted 83. The others have had their engines, generator's and trucks removed and are sitting in a parking lot somewhere up by Wabash, In. ( Rich Valley). The VO 1000 is still at Forest Park, as well as ex UP GP9 200. Ex NKP Geep 426 at the park as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:32 am 

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PMC wrote:
NS 3322 wrote:
Do we have a listing of what remains at Noblesville?

The most notable things I think are the four Milwaukee Road F units, three A units and one B unit. I don't know what happened to the Baldwin switcher.


Reports indicate that known culprits in the Fort Wayne area absconded with an ABA set of Milwaukee Road F-units (F7A No. 72, B-Unit, and EMD F7B No. 68), one PRR hopper, and one NKP wooden boxcar, among other items.

Official details to follow...

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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:36 am 

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PMC wrote:
NS 3322 wrote:
Do we have a listing of what remains at Noblesville?

The most notable things I think are the four Milwaukee Road F units, three A units and one B unit. I don't know what happened to the Baldwin switcher.


Reports indicate that known culprits in the Fort Wayne area absconded with an ABA set of Milwaukee Road F-units (F7A No. 72, B-Unit, and EMD F7B No. 68), one PRR hopper, and one NKP wooden boxcar, among other items.

Official details to follow...


If I didn’t know any better, I’d think you’ve got inside info Kelly…

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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:19 pm 

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nathansixchime wrote:
Reports indicate that known culprits in the Fort Wayne area absconded with an ABA set of Milwaukee Road F-units (F7A No. 72, B-Unit, and EMD F7B No. 68), one PRR hopper, and one NKP wooden boxcar, among other items.

Official details to follow...

Very good news, I figured they were goners. Reportedly the roof hatches are off and the units are on cribbing because the PM's/generators and trucks were removed for transport, a good idea for groups with the ability to do so needing to move a unit, because I'll bet the various pieces all fall under the weight requirements to get special, expensive permits. The last F unit, 83A, is still at Forrest Park and apparently is owned by Noblesville, but it is a runner and so it likely won't be cut. Ex-Union Pacific GP-9 #200 also remains, it also is a runner, and is one of the units UP added a turbocharger to before EMD came out with the GP20. The Baldwin painted as a Nickel Plate unit was a runner until ITM ran it in water and at least one traction motor is bad. Photo ATSF616 from the Indiana RRs board ("West Plains Mining limestone operation at Rich Valley, between Peru and Wabash. They were visible today from old US24.")


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:02 pm 

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Wheeling and Lake Erie Office Car Huron leaving Forrest Park, John Owen photo.


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:33 pm 

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It's good to see the Milw F units being saved. I thought they would have been goners by now.

What happened to the BN steam gen/Ex F3 unit?

Shame the UP #200 hasn't found a new home. I think it would be a fitting piece on the Nevada Southern Railway or the Heber Valley RR. Maybe on the rebuilt portion of the Virginia & Truckee Railroad.

The Baldwin has it's best chance of being saved if SMS picks it up. SMS being the only operator of historic Baldwin diesels nowadays. They could get it running most likely with the spare parts they have on the back lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:59 am 

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The BN steam gen/b-unit was an asbestos party. The city began dismantling of that last week, as well as some asbestos-ridden reefers that were still on site.

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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:59 am 

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The BN steam gen/b-unit was an asbestos party. The city began dismantling of that last week, as well as some asbestos-ridden reefers that were still on site.


I'm forced to wonder if they're using the same overwrought precautionary measures against the "A-word" as they would demand of any private party wanting to dismantle it. I've heard a few stories of "double standards" where apparently such action by a government entity suddenly and mysteriously eliminates the formerly perceived "need" to treat the stuff like the remains of Chernobyl's bad reactor.............


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:22 pm 

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One other question, was everything in Logansport scrapped? (Other than the Monon caboose and boxcar that went to HVRM).
I heard rumblings of some groups trying to save one or two certain pieces but never heard anything come of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
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Plenty in Logansport did get destroyed. It's maddening to think so much was removed and hustled up north just to get turned into dust.

However, a few freight cars were saved. My last visit in Logansport revealed 4-5 pieces were left - a Budd stainless RPO, an older and largely wrecked passenger car of east coast origin (EL?), a few boxcars.

We'll be assisting the city in getting two freight cars out as soon as contracts from the mover are received.

Regarding vitamin A in Noblesville, we looked at the reefers and B-unit ourselves, but the concerns were big enough that neither we nor other parties wanted to mess with them.

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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:33 pm 

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PRR sleeping car Philadelphia County left Forrest Park yesterday, three photos John Owen. The trucks are being inspected before the car is placed back on them for rail movement. Mr. Owen and the Louisville Railroad Company group are responsible for saving this car, part of PRR's Fleet of Modernism, as well as the wood ex-W&LE business car that went to the Colebrookdale Railroad.


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 12:12 am 

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Update on the Philadelphia County:

A seemingly last-ditch, eleventh-hour-and-55th-minute effort to save this PRR sleeper.

https://www.facebook.com/donate/3057592 ... 430520135/

Mr. Owen on Facebook yesterday:

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Hello friends: Six months ago I stuck my neck out when the call went out that, “that someone needed to do something to save the PRR Philadelphia County from being scrapped.” I did what I thought was the right thing to do and stepped up to that call. At the same time it was discovered that I had a serious heart problem that required immediate surgery. This caused me to take my eyes off the ball. Unexpected problems arose leaving the car stuck on on blocks on city owned property now sold to a developer in Indiana and a $12,000.00 bill. Today I am facing this bill along with a demand of the removal of this car from the property it sits on, along with the cost of yet another move. At this point it with great humility that I am reaching out to this group in hopes that someone will come along side and help with yet another rescue of the Philly County. I am over to any and all ideas, let the conversation begin.


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 Post subject: Re: Indiana Transportation Museum Given until July 12 to Mov
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:40 am 

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PMC wrote:
...as well as the wood ex-W&LE business car that went to the Colebrookdale Railroad.


Why is it currently in Monon, Indiana as of May 2022?
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5767374

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Update on the Philadelphia County:

A seemingly last-ditch, eleventh-hour-and-55th-minute effort to save this PRR sleeper.

https://www.facebook.com/donate/3057592 ... 430520135/

Mr. Owen on Facebook yesterday:

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Hello friends: Six months ago I stuck my neck out when the call went out that, “that someone needed to do something to save the PRR Philadelphia County from being scrapped.” I did what I thought was the right thing to do and stepped up to that call. At the same time it was discovered that I had a serious heart problem that required immediate surgery. This caused me to take my eyes off the ball. Unexpected problems arose leaving the car stuck on on blocks on city owned property now sold to a developer in Indiana and a $12,000.00 bill. Today I am facing this bill along with a demand of the removal of this car from the property it sits on, along with the cost of yet another move. At this point it with great humility that I am reaching out to this group in hopes that someone will come along side and help with yet another rescue of the Philly County. I am over to any and all ideas, let the conversation begin.


For reference, Philadelphia County is currently on a spur off of the LIRC in Southport, Indiana.


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