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I found photo # 47 (previous page) very interesting. Looks like the road power is an S4 (maybe even an S2) Alco switcher and the location is obviously one of the far western states. The two UP box cars (in different paint schemes no less) make sense, but what is interesting is the Savannah & Atlanta box car tucked in behind the Alco. Wonder what she was carrying to make it that far out from "home"?

Les

I've always heard the term "Erie-built" in the context of Fairbanks-Morse locomotives (of which the UP had a few). The locomotives in photo 43 appear to be Alco PAs in the 600 series. Alco and GE were in the locomotive business together at the time, so where would these PAs have been built?

Peter, you're correct. The engines in photo #43 are indeed 2 PA-1's and a PB-1. My mistake. During this timeframe, the F-M Erie-builts were in the upper #600-range, as #650-#657; the 5 B units occupied #650B-#656B excluding #651B and #655B. (The Erie-builts were formerly #700-#707; the B units as #700B-#706B with the same 2 numbers unoccupied in the sequence.) The PA-1's, meanwhile, were in the low #600-range, as #600-#607; the 6 PB-1's occupied #600B-#607B excluding #601B and #603B. (Four of the PA-1's, #600-#603, were formerly #994A-#997A; and 2 of the PB-1's, #600B and #602B, were formerly #998B and #999B.)

Sources:

1. Roster info from Don Strack's Utah Rails website: PA-1's and PB-1's and Erie-builts

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The large building next to the railroad is a former UP freight house located just east of the East Los Angeles depot that was located across Atlantic Blvd. from the East Yard. In the far distance a bridge can be seen over the railroad -- this is the I-710 freeway crossing over East Yard. Train is eastbound.

The freight house was built in 1960 and at one time it had interior tracks. And the truck doors faced Ferguson Dr. The track connection was removed and the building is now used by FedEx Ground. Massive building -- Google street view shows the truck dock numbering up to 92 spots (not all used today).

I think the passenger car is ex-Amtrak. I visited the site back in February and took photos of the freight cars, but not the passenger car. Maybe in a few weeks, when I have another reason to visit La Habra, I can visit the museums again and check for identification marks on the car.

Just out of the view to the left (south) is the former Pacific Electric depot. To the right and behind the ex-UP (LA&SL) depot is the local history museum for La Habra and the surrounding area. And south of the PE depot is a former PE line that was later used by the SP and is now used by the Union Pacific.

Some years ago the SP & UP did a shared track agreement for the parallel lines through Whittier and La Habra; the UP moved over to the SP (ex-PE) line and tore up its rails. The line is now an "industrial lead" that serves chemical plants, etc. so the track has some good rail.

Thanks, Brian, for the info on UP slides #37 and #41!

Another Slide:

This is an original Kodachrome slide taken by John W. Stubblefield in (most likely August) 1971 of BN #2212, still in the simplified version of GN's Pullman Green & Omaha Orange paint scheme. The location and exact date are unknown.

The #2212 was built in May 1963 in Order #7650 as GN #3012 (serial #28273, frame #7650-13), 1 of 17 GP30's (#3000-#3016) built in that Order in April and May of that year, which were delivered in the simplified scheme. These were the GN's only Order of GP30's, and went to BN as #2200-#2216. 12 of these 17 were rebuilt in 1989; 11 as GP39M's by Morrison-Knudsen and 1 as a GP39E by EMD; the #2212 was rebuilt in September of that year to GP39M #2822, and is still in service for BNSF.

Behind the #2212 is GP38 #2077, which was built in February 1970 in Order #7239 (serial #36000). It had been ordered by the SP&S, and was intended as #205 (2nd), but it was delivered as BN #2077. The SP&S had ordered 5 other GP38's (intended as #200 [2nd] to #204 [2nd]) in Order #5754, which were also built in February 1970; these were delivered as BN #2072-#2076. The #2077 went to BNSF as #2142, and was rebuilt last year to GP39-3 #2557.

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I had posted this Dick Wallin Ektachrome duplicate over in the Slide Scanner Recommendations thread back in September of last year. At first, I didn't have info on the location or date, but the location was soon identified by forum member "HudsonL" as being the GN roundhouse in Superior, WI. I recently determined the date as being August 1970.

GN SD9 #577. 1 of GN's first 6 SD9's (#573-#578), built in February 1954. These 6 engines were renumbered as BN #6100-#6105 (#577 to #6104), and this slide dates from after the merger, as 2 of the 4 ex-GN engines seen here have already received their new numbers. The #6104 was retired in September 1984 and traded in July 1985 to EMD on an order of GP50's. As for the other 3 engines: on the far left is freight-geared F7A #314C, which was built in April 1952, became BN #646, and was retired and sold to Precision National in April 1974. Behind the #577 is BN-renumbered GP9 #1832, which was built in May 1954 as GN #680, sold in October 1987 to MRL, renumbered #103, and then renumbered again to #127. Finally, in the far background is BN-renumbered, freight-geared F7A #644, which was built in April 1952 as GN #314A, and was retired and sold to Precision National in December 1980.

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Another Slide:

This is a duplicate Kodachrome slide I acquired from John Benson, of C&S F3A #703-A. There is no info written on the mount, so the date, location, and photographer were initially unknown, but when I posted this slide to Trainorders, several persons theorized that this was taken in Rice Yard in Denver.

The #703-A was built in October 1947 in Order #E790 as CB&Q #119A (serial #4410, frame #E790-A7 [presumed]), 1 of 10 F3A's (#116A & D to #120A & D) built in that Order, along with 10 F3B's (#116B & C to #120B & C), for a total of 5 A-B-B-A sets. One of these sets, #119A to D, was sold in July 1960 to C&S as #703A to D. #703A & B were traded in to EMD in April 1968 on the second Order of C&S SD40's (#879-#887). #703C & D were sold for scrap in April 1968 to PECO, as listed on the BRHS website. PECO was identified in the same Trainorders thread as standing for Precision Engineering Company, which later became Precision National Company.

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Another Slide:

I acquired from John Benson this original Kodachrome slide taken by Jim Claflin of brand new GP60M's #159 and #158. There is no info written on the mount other than the processing date of October 1990, so the actual date and the location were unknown, but when I posted this slide to Trainorders, it was theorized that it was taken in Corwith Yard when the units were basically fresh out of the factory in September 1990.

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Another Slide:

This is an original Kodachrome taken by Dick Kuelbs in Dallas on Friday, January 1st, 1965.

Pullman-owned Plan #3523A 6 compartment-3 drawing room (6C-3DR) sleeper Glen Springs was 1 of 40 such cars built in 1925 in Lot #4922; cars were outshopped between October and December. 7 of the 40 cars were built for the Overland Limited, and 5 of the 40 cars were built for the Santa Fe; the remaining 28 cars were built for the general service pool. At the 12/31/1948 Pullman divestiture, only 4 of the 40 cars were sold to railroads: 2 to SP, 1 to NYC, and 1 to PRR (this car had been rebuilt in 1926 to 4 compartments and 4 drawing rooms [4C-4DR]); the other 36 cars were retained by Pullman, most of them lasting until the 1960's. Of these 36, 2 were sold in 1958 to the NYC for scrapping, 2 were sold in 1959 to James E. Strates Shows, the Glen Nevis was sold in 1966 to Halliburton (now at the Museum of the American Railroad in Frisco, TX; "Surviving Pullman" line item #31), the Glen Alta was sold in 1965 to Jack Ferris' Private Railroad Cars, Inc. (later resold to Strates Shows, then to the Illinois Railway Museum, now owned by Iowa Pacific; "Surviving Pullman" line item #27), and the Glen Springs was sold on December 26th, 1964, to William W. Kratville's Autoliner Corporation (in Omaha) as #101 (1st), and was later acquired by IRM as well; "Surviving Pullman" line item #32. So that means that this slide of the Glen Springs was taken only a few days after title had passed from Pullman to Kratville.

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Another Slide:

In this duplicate slide from the Charles Houser Collection, NP F7A #6509C is one of four passenger service-equipped F Units on the eastbound North Coast Limited at Livingston, MT, in August 1965. The #6509C was 1 of 9 F7A's (#6500C, #6509A & C to #6512A & C) built in September 1949 in Order #E1214-A; there were also 3 F7B's (#6510B to #6512B) built that month in Order #E1214-B. 5 of these 9 F7A's (#6509A & C, #6511A & C, #6512A) made it to the BN merger and were placed in the #97xx-series (#9776 to #9784 [evens]) for continued passenger service; the #6509C became BN #9778. In August 1972, BN sold a number of passenger F Units to Amtrak, including these 5; the #9778 became Amtrak #103 (1st), and it was retired in October 1975. (However, Ron Hawkins states in a caption on RR Picture Archives that the #103 [1st] was retired in August 1973, so it is possible that the retirement date of October 1975 listed in "Amtrak by the Numbers" refers to when the engine was sold for scrap.)

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Another Slide:

This is an undated Dick Kuelbs slide of GM&O sleeper Timothy B. Blackstone in St. Louis. The Blackstone is a 4 section-8 roomette-3 double bedroom-1 compartment (4S-8RM-3DB-1C) sleeper built by American Car & Foundry (AC&F). There were 4 of these sleepers, which were ordered in December 1946 and delivered in July 1950. AC&F built these 4 cars in Lot #3208 to Pullman Plan #9012. The other 3 cars were Culver White, Judge Milton Brown, and Samuel King Tigrett. All 4 cars were retired in 1969 and sold:

The Culver White was sold to the Bremen Transportation Company (Bremen, IN). When I posted this slide to Trainorders, I initially didn't have any further disposition info for the White, but TO member "EmpireBuilder" posted that: "[It] was a part of the Purple Martin train, and [was] moved to Atlantic, Iowa, when [the Purple Martin] collection was sold. In 1995 or so, the Atlantic, Iowa, collection was auctioned, and the White was sold to a fellow (name withheld) from the Minneapolis area. It [was] moved to Fremont, Nebraska, where it spent 10+ years undergoing a leisurely PV conversion. With the demise of the Fremont & Elkhorn Valley RR, I heard it was moved to Northern Minnesota. Unless something has changed, it still has the same owner that bought it at the auction. It has been rebuilt into an open platform car." RYPN and TO member "Topfuel" then posted that "[It] is located in Charles City, IA." "EmpireBuilder" then said that: "When I last spoke with the owner, his plans were to move it to the Duluth area. His plans obviously changed." Based on the fact that the White had been part of the Griggsville Wild Bird Society/Purple Martin train, I'm now wondering if the info in W. David Randall's "Streamliner Cars Volume Three: ACF - Other Builders" was backwards: that it was the Culver White that was sold to Southwest Railroad Car Parts, and that it was the Judge Milton Brown that was sold to the Bremen Transportation Company. The reason I say this is that Griggsville/Purple Martin acquired several cars from Southwest RR Car Parts, specifically 3 ex-IC, nee-NKP 10RM-6DB sleepers. Can anybody confirm my theory? Thanks in advance!

The Judge Milton Brown was sold to Southwest Railroad Car Parts (Dora, AL/Greggton, TX). It was later part of the collection of the Railway Museum of Greater Cincinnati (Latonia, KY), and it was recently sold and moved for display at the Casey Jones Village in Jackson, TN. Does anybody know if the Brown was acquired directly from SW RR Car Parts, or was there another party in between? Also, was the Brown acquired when it was still the Railway Exposition Company? Thanks in advance!

The Samuel King Tigrett was sold to Great Western Tours as #205 and renamed Golden Gate. Again, when I posted this slide to Trainorders, I initially didn't have any further disposition info for the Tigrett, but TO member "wharfrat" posted that: "[The] Tigrett was sold to Rod Basich, who sold it to Mexico." I then checked Robert J. Wayner's "The Cars That Went to Mexico", which lists that the Tigrett was acquired by SCD in 1979 as #704 Estrecho de Gibraltar. But, it is listed as having 4 roomettes instead of the original 8, so either this is in error or Basich/Great Western Tours might've had 4 of the roomettes removed to make room for a small lounge. That's only conjecture at this point, but it wouldn't surprise me. Can anybody confirm my theory? Thanks in advance!

The Timothy B. Blackstone was sold to the Pacific Railroad Society as PAR #2 and renamed Golden Sunset, and was later renamed back to Timothy B. Blackstone. It was later assigned #800367. In 2015, Pacific RR Society sold the Blackstone to the Monticello Railway Museum (Monticello, IL), along with IC 40 seat diner lounge #4110 Shadrach Bond (#800373).

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Another Slide:

This is an original Kodachrome slide taken by Robert Bullerman in September 1964 in Aurora, IL, of CB&Q 60 seat chair #6000 Silver Pendulum. It was a unique pendular suspension car built by the Pacific Railway Equipment Company in 1940. There were 3 of these cars, 1 each owned by the Burlington Route, the Great Northern, and the Santa Fe. The Silver Pendulum was ordered in September 1939, was delivered in January 1942, was retired in 1965 (although looking at this slide, it appears to have been removed from service sometime before then), and was subsequently sold for scrap to Northwestern Steel & Wire in Sterling, IL. GN #999, with 68 seats, was ordered in July 1939, was delivered in January 1942, was retired in 1966, and was subsequently scrapped. AT&SF #1100, with 56 seats, was ordered in June 1939, was delivered in November 1941, was retired in 1964, and was subsequently scrapped. There's more info on these cars in a thread over on Trainorders: http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,4147033

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Another Slide:

This is a duplicate slide (brand unknown) of Milwaukee Road SD40-2 #130 (and #21 behind it), taken by an unknown photographer in Bensenville, IL, in October 1986.

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Another Slide:

This is an original Kodachrome slide taken by George H. Menge in Topeka, on September 9th, 1994, of 7-month-old C44-9W #634, with 16-year-old B23-7 #6363 behind it.

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