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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:47 am 

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Rainier Rails wrote:
Sleepers, Continued:

#8345 Chester County to PC #4370, retired in 1971 and sold to Jones Properties, which renamed it F. Fay, Jr. Current status unknown.



Photo has turned up of it supposedly parked in West Chester, Pa,. in Feb. 1981:

https://www.facebook.com/BaltimoreNRHS/ ... =3&theater

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:46 pm 
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Thanks, ADM IV, for the info on the Chester County! Does anybody know who owned the car when it was located in West Chester, or where it is now (if it's still extant)? Thanks in advance!

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:32 pm 

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How about Philadelphia County, a lightweight, streamlined 13 double-bedroom Pullman sleeper, built in the spring of 1938 by Pullman-Standard? It was retired in 1968 and is in the collection of the Indiana Transportation Museum at Noblesville, IN.

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:09 am 
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Ron Goldfeder wrote:
How about Philadelphia County, a lightweight, streamlined 13 double-bedroom Pullman sleeper, built in the spring of 1938 by Pullman-Standard? It was retired in 1968 and is in the collection of the Indiana Transportation Museum at Noblesville, IN.


Thanks, Ron, for the info on the Philadelphia County!

Jeff Lisowski wrote:
Having grown up in West Chester, this doesn't look like West Chester. It could be further down the tracks from the station itself, but, I am unsure.


Thanks, Jeff! So, if the photo posted above of the Chester County was indeed not taken in West Chester, than does anybody have any idea/guesses about where it actually was taken? Thanks in advance!

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:56 pm 

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Regarding P Company "Chester County"
I also think that the photo is not at West Chester or any other station along that line based on the date and I remember seeing the car many years back, just trying to remember where.
My first thought was on the Newtown Square branch at a museum, if so no longer at that site. The tracks were still in place but OOS on the photo date, it could have been moved.
Give me some time before listing as "gone", poking around giving it a try.


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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:39 pm 
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Thanks, RDGRAILFAN, for the possible location of the Chester County photo, and for looking into whether or not the car's still around!

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:26 pm 

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A commenter to the Facebook post/photo at the top of this page of the thread suggests that 1) the photograph shows the car in Paoli, and 2) the car "was removed a number of years ago. Was in poor shape, leaky roof, might [have] been scrapped."


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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:11 am 

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Chester County - Information of car from another board. RIP

"Brian the Chester County was scrapped by Septa . It sat at Paoli for years along with a B 60 baggage car and the Harrisburg. They sat on the old Main Line Coal and Feed /Dalton Bros. siding. The Harrisburg escaped to Ohio then to another owner , It now sits on the Strasburg RR all restored. No idea what happened to the B 60. I looked at the Chester County years ago. The owners gave me a guided tour of the car. It's main issue was the original construction of stainless steel over a carbon steel framing. The rain water would leak around the windows and the interior structural framing would rust. If you banged hard enough on the stainless fluting you could hear the rust raining down inside. It could be repaired but the cost was prohibited. The car was moved by Septa over by the mu shop building and scrapped on site. This happened just after the shops were closed but before they were torn down. The owners did take off the Pennsylvania nameplates and the Chester county plates. It's a shame as the interior was all original and not in that bad of shape. The car could have been had for free all you had to do was get it moved !! By the way one of it's sisters the Baltimore County was scrapped in place in Elverson Pa a few years after the Chester County was cut up. It suffered the same malady as it's sister did. --- Ken McCorry"
Well we can close the book on this one


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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:20 pm 

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Might as well post about the PRR Pine Falls in our collection at Rochester & Genesee Valley Railroad Museum. Car is currently cocooned until we formulate a plan to repair the roof.

PRR 8139 Pine Falls
LIRR 2063 Pequot
to Don Jilson in 1978
to RGVRRM in 1985

http://www.rgvrrm.org/about/railroad/pinefalls/

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:25 am 
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PaulWWoodring wrote:
There were at least two surviving carbon steel PRR sleepers being used in excursion service into the late 80's, early '90's. I believe one was Catalpa Falls
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
Catalpa Falls has been discussed in the "Al Chione Slides" thread recently; it's currently at Ridgeley, WV (WMSR) awaiting enough demand for its use to justify the expense of further upgrades/rehabilitation.


As posted on other sites, the Catalpa Falls is back in regular PV service, making a special run on the Pennsylvanian with the Frank Thomson and the Colonial Crafts to commemorate the 70th Anniversary of the inauguration of the postwar edition of the Broadway Limited.

The same group who owns the Catalpa Falls now also own both the Samuel Rea and the Chippewa Creek, but neither of those cars are (as of yet) in service. (Also owned is baggage #9312.)

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:24 pm 
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Updates:

28 seat chair-21 seat club lounge #1152 John Adams (later PC 14 seat parlor-21 seat club lounge #7175/AMTK 40 seat buffet lounge #3329) was acquired by the Catalpa Falls Group in 2020: https://www.catalpafallsgroup.com/johnadams

It was previously in storage at Bennett Levin's Juniata Terminal facility in Philly: http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39130

(Was the #1152 owned by JTCX, or was it stored there for another party?)

10-6 sleeper #8351 Birch River (later PC #4356) from the SOU Crescent pool was scrapped by the Railroaders Memorial Museum in Altoona over the course of October-November 2022: http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47006

prewar sleeper buffet lounge observation #8113 Jack's Narrows (later Wake Island/Samuel Vaughn Merrick/parlor service #7153/Butterworth Tours The Reveler) was sold by the Railroaders Memorial Museum to Curry Rail (Hollidaysburg, PA) in 2020, and was moved down to the Western Maryland Scenic: http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44287

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:28 am 

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In October, I was permitted to visit the WMSR shop area and found this ex-PRR observation car awaiting its fate. I believe it may have been stored at the Altoona Railroaders Museum until recently, as it looked familiar to me. I don't know or any plans for the old ob. Does anyone know the name of this car and which train(s) it was assigned to in Pennsy service?

Is there a list of surviving Pennsy observation cars, preservation conditions aside?


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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:15 pm 
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That is the aforementioned #8113 Jack's Narrows that was indeed in Altoona.

As for listing out all the surviving PRR observations, that will eventually be a post in this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:39 pm 

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Thank you, Ted.

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving PRR Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:35 pm 

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If this ex-eee car is the car I think it likely is, based on Rainier's data, it's ex PRR (Budd, 1949).

Current identity is RXCX 800814. Seen here this morning (12/3/22) bringing up the rear of a northbound CN / IC freight shown here in Homewood, IL (with the shelf coupler warning being ignored).

From Ted's 2014 post:

PRR 21RM sleeper #8250 Carnegie Inn (Budd, Lot #9667-024, Plan #9513, 1949) to coach #1500 to PC to SEMTA #105 Clawson to MARC #145 (Inn-series name reapplied). Acquired in 2011 from Hagerstown Roundhouse Museum. Assigned to Cape Cod Central (#800814).

Anyone know where she is going?


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