Railway Preservation News
http://rypn.org/forums/

'New' extinct diesel replica
http://rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35781		 Page 1 of 4
Author:  EDM [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  'New' extinct diesel replica
Not too sure I have the best subject here, and I hope I don't get drummed off this board, but here goes- A good friend and I, both involved in vintage diesels, were discussing the T1 thread over the weekend. We put things in a diesel perspective; given the money, what would we like to see replicated? My friend said, with very little hesitation, the Baldwin Babyface. My choice was really more ancestral, a slightly larger and standard gauge version of EBT M-1.

Anyone else have any favorites they would like to see built? Don't be shy, we're all friends here, right?

EDM
Needtowinthelottery, NJ
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
Once again, we're behind the Brits. There are at least two such "replication diesel" projects underway in the UK.

Here's one, based around the last nine-cylinder Napier Deltic engine known to survive: http://www.thebabydelticproject.co.uk/
Author:  kevin kohls [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
Without a doubt : Baldwin centipede.

Kevin K
Author:  Cjbdiesel [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
While there is technically 4 left (All of which are gutted, rusted and OOS), I'd like to see a brand new ALCo PA-1. That would be a neat sight to see...
Author:  Gary Gray [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
One that is possibly doable, since there a couple of chassis' left as slugs... Fairbanks-Morse H24-66 Trainmaster
Author:  p51 [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
Honestly, wouldn't Doyle's PA in Portland be considered, "kitbashing" in 1:1 scale? There's a lot of stuff in that locomotive that won't be original at all.
But it won't stop anyone from appreciating it anyway.
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
Cjbdiesel wrote:
While there is technically 4 left (All of which are gutted, rusted and OOS), I'd like to see a brand new ALCo PA-1. That would be a neat sight to see...


You've been guarding Jack Benny's safe, obviously.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35687

Image

The one that stayed in Mexico is far from being a "gutted, rusted, and OOS" hulk, mind you.
Author:  b. barry [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
A pair of DL109's
Author:  Bob Davis [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
For the FM H24-66, no need to replicate--there's the Canadian version preserved at the National Railway Museum near Ste. Constant. Having ridden behind the SP version on the San Francisco-San Jose "commute" service, and knowing that all of them were scrapped, it was an emotional experience to see the survivor safely in a barn near Montreal. Does anyone know if this one runs?
Author:  dinwitty [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
My vote would be for the centipede, the baby face would be interesting.

to throw an alternative in, N&W or Virginian Jack Shafts my vote and or the Virginian EL-2.

Kinda a dream thread for now but interesting to dream a bit.
Author:  artschwartz [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
DL 109s in New Haven green & gold. Prime movers available, lots of S2's around.
Author:  David H. Hamley [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
The Baldwin double end cab units built for CNJ. One ALMOST got saved. I figure about $4 to $5M should do it. Welded underframe this time around. Probably have to build a couple new 608NA engines too, there aren't many left and most of those are contained in preserved switchers. That original CNJ orange and blue was very attractive too.
Author:  NH0401 [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
I would vote for the GE-equipped FM TrainMaster, based upon the existence of an underframe and trucks.

I would imagine a 12 cyl OP could be sourced used-or even purchased new from FM Engines. The correct DC main generator (which was specific to FM) probably no longer exists-something would need to be improvised. This choice would govern the selection of aux gen.

There is still enough GE RTO electrical gear (power contactors, reverser, control relays, etc) available to populate the electric locker. Not sure if these locos had amplidyne or static excitation-but that material can also be drummed up as RTO stuff.

Recall that the cooling fans, tm blowers were all 3-phase units of FM manufacture...so EMD items would have to substitute here.

Hoods and cab are fairly simple fab shop fare-which become almost trivial if the original
shop drawings still exist. Was this stuff donated by FM to a museum group ?

My 0.02....

Dave
Author:  wm303 [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
"The one that stayed in Mexico is far from being a "gutted, rusted, and OOS" hulk, mind you".

There are two complete ALCO PA-4s in museums in Mexico.
Author:  Richard Glueck [ Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 'New' extinct diesel replica
Rather than replicate, restore the two ex-CPR C-Liners in Canada and send them touring. Rebuilding the H24-66's from the frames up would be worthwhile. An H16-44 would be another worth seeing and hearing, particularly the earlier art-deco style.
But looking at what is out there to be restored, and all reasonably possible:

Two Trainmaster slugs, two C-Liners, several H16-44's, two Sharks, one more PA, a host of FA1's and FA2's (thank you, LIRR).

Remember that with the MM&A bankruptcy, another Bangor and Aroostook F3A will probably become available.

Of those entirely gone- I guess a DL-109 or Baldwin Centipede.
Page 1 of 4 All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/