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 Post subject: Re: Santa Fe Coaches to Commuter Service
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:03 pm 

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Rainier Rails wrote:
Thanks to ETA, Dave, Brian, and Steve for providing all the information on these ex-Santa Fe coaches! I have more cars on the list now than what I started out with, and many more current whereabouts or final dispositions!

Okay, here's the latest version of the list:

[1] Commuter No. [2] (Assignment) [3] (AT&SF No.) [4] Notes & Disposition
#3070 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Southerd Construction; scrapped at Newfoundland, NJ
#3072 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3072
#3074 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Green Mountain RR #3074
#3075 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Green Mountain RR #3075
#3076 (CNJ) (same) To NJT
#3077 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3078 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3078
#3079 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; URHS to PV "Cocoa Grove" to Arizona RY Mus. #3079 "Diablo Canyon"
#2400 (PC) (#3080) To NJT; S. Zuiderveen to Kasten Railcar Services
#3081 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3081
#3082 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3083 (CNJ) (same) To NJT
#3085 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3086 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3087 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3088 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3089 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Green Mountain RR #3089
#3090 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3091 (EL) (same) To NJT; Green Mountain RR #3091
#3092 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3092
#3093 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3093
#3094 (CNJ) (same) To NJT
#3095 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3095
#3096 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3096
#3097 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3098 (EL) (same) To NJT
#3099 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Indiana Trans. Mus. #3099
#3101 (CNJ) (same) To NJT; Green Mountain RR #3101
#2410 (PC) (#3102) To NJT
#2411 (PC) (#3103) To NJT; S. Zuiderveen to Washington Central RR
#2412 (PC) (#3104) To NJT
#2413 (PC) (#3105) To NJT; Cedar Rapids & Iowa City #113 to Oklahoma RY Mus. #113 "The Oklahoman" to Cuyahoga Valley Scenic RR #113
#2414 (PC) (#3106) To NJT; S. Zuiderveen to Washington Central RR
#2415 (PC) (#3108) To NJT
#2404 (PC) (#3109) To NJT
#2416 (PC) (#3110) To NJT
#2417 (PC) (#3111) To NJT
#2418 (PC) (#3112) To NJT
#2419 (PC) (#3113) To NJT; S. Zuiderveen to Volant, PA gift shop to Harlansburg Station Trans. Mus.
#2420 (PC) (#3114) To NJT; S. Zuiderveen to Washington Central RR
#2405 (PC) (#3115) To NJT
#2421 (PC) (#3116) To NJT; S. Zuiderveen to Volant, PA gift shop to Harlansburg Station Trans. Mus.
#2406 (PC) (#3119) To NJT
#2422 (PC) (#3137) To NJT; S. Zuiderveen to Kasten Railcar Services to Southern Constructors (at the Forks of the River Ind. Park, Knoxville, TN)
#2438 (PC) (#3155) To MTA; Madison Depot Restaurant (Madison, WI)
#2424 (PC) (#2946) ex-coach observation #3198; to NJT
#2407 (PC) (#2947) ex-coach observation #3199; to NJT; Cedar Rapids & Iowa City #115 to Oklahoma RY Mus. #115 "Kerr McGee Explorer"
#2426 (PC) (#2957) ex-parlor observation #3240; to NJT
#2408 (PC) (#2948) ex-parlor observation #3241; to NJT
#2409 (PC) (#2949) ex-parlor observation #3242; to NJT
#2450 (PC) (#2950) ex-14 section sleeper "Dinnebito"; to MTA
#2451 (PC) (#2951) ex-14 section sleeper "Ganado"; to MTA
#2452 (PC) (#2952) ex-14 section sleeper "Hakatai"; to MTA; wrecked 1977
#2453 (PC) (#2953) ex-14 section sleeper "Havasu"; to MTA
#2454 (PC) (#2954) ex-14 section sleeper "Hoskinnini"; to MTA
#2455 (PC) (#2955) ex-14 section sleeper "Hotauta"; to MTA
#2425 (PC) (#2956) ex-2C-2DR-6DB sleeper "Taos"; to NJT
#2449 (PC) (#2811) ex-17RM-1S sleeper "Chimayo"; to NJT; S. Zuiderveen to ETIX to Galveston RR Mus. "Chimayo"
#2468 (PC) (#2806) ex-17RM-1S sleeper "Maito"; to NJT
#2469 (PC) (#2807) ex-17RM-1S sleeper "Otowi"; to NJT
#2459 (PC) (#2810) ex-17RM-1S sleeper "Paria"; to MTA
#2470 (PC) (#2809) ex-17RM-1S sleeper "Tuba"; to NJT
#2443 (PC) (#2796) ex-2C-2DB-8S sleeper "Salahkai"; to NJT
#2448 (PC) (#2803) ex-2C-2DB-8S sleeper "Segatoa"; to NJT
#2442 (PC) (#2795) ex-2C-2DB-8S sleeper "Toadlena"; to NJT; Naporano Iron & Metal Co.; scrapped, 1990
#2444 (PC) (#2797) ex-2C-2DB-8S sleeper "Tonalea"; to NJT
#2445 (PC) (#2799) ex-2C-2DB-8S sleeper "Toreva"; to NJT
#2446 (PC) (#2801) ex-2C-2DB-8S sleeper "Wupatki"; to NJT
#2447 (PC) (#2802) ex-2C-2DB-8S sleeper "Yampai"; to NJT
#2456 (PC) (#2812) ex-4DR-1DB sleeper observation "Betahtakin"; to MTA
#2457 (PC) (#2813) ex-4DR-1DB sleeper observation "Chaistla"; to MTA

Mysteries:

1. Which 2 of the 3 cars that Steve sold to the Washington Central were used in the consist of the Spirit of Washington Dinner Train? Anyone know what happened to the third car?

2. The Cedar Rapids & Iowa City (CRANDIC) had at least 3 ex-AT&SF coaches, numbered #112, #113 (ex-#2413) & #115 (ex-#2407). These 3 cars later went to the Oklahoma RY Museum, and the #112 & #113 are now on the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic RR. The only car I haven't been able to identify is the #112. Does anyone know the identity of this coach, and did the CRANDIC have any other ex-AT&SF coaches?

3. Can anyone identify the 5 coaches the Valley Railroad acquired for A/C parts and then sold to Steve?

4. I checked Jerry LaBoda's photo links website again and found that the Maine Coast Railroad owned an ex-AT&SF commuter coach. Anyone know the identity, and its current whereabouts?

Are there additional AT&SF coaches that went into commuter service I do not yet have on the list? Additions and corrections are welcome. Thanks in advance.


Ted, the CRANDIC had 5 AT&SF coaches. These were sold to the CVSR in 1994 numbered as 110-115. The original 110 (whos ATSF number I am trying to figure out) was scrapped in 2000. CVSR purchased the Ex- ATSF 3085 from Ben Butterworth's Quad City Rocket Train in 1998, and was the replacement for 110 receiving it's number.

This photo shows the original 110. http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cvsr110.jpg

Here is the current 110 named as the Mary S. and David C. Corbin who provided a grant to acquire the car. https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrkyle229/5036989429

I found this next photo linked on Jerry LaBoda's archive site. I think this may be the original 110 on the CRANDIC. http://rr-fallenflags.org/kjry/kjr-spec-bm.jpg

Matt


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