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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:37 am 

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To answer some of the questions:
1) The F3's are still owned by ARHS and Tri-State. The NPS has been gracious in allowing us to use the roundhouse to do some 're-restoration' of the units, since it's been over 20 years on the original restoration (or replication, if you prefer) of CNJ-56, ex BAR-46, exx BAR-506, and about 17 years for the 57. They will remain at Steamtown following their repaint into the DL&W freight scheme, since they help to tell the story of the end of steam on mainline US railroads.

2) The ARHS still maintains an interest in the CNJ 1554 and RDG 467, although they are owned by GVT, the parent of the D-L RR. The 1554 was the 'odd man out' in our collection at Thorpe, and suffered from sitting in the damp shadows for too long. The ARHS is a member of the URHS, but the unit was owned by the ARHS alone.

The top end of the prime mover (in the foreground of one of the pix) was removed when we bought the unit and we never had the facilities to do the required mechanical work. There was a major water leak in one of the cylinders caused by damage to two of the water supply pipes next to the power assembly.

After further assessment by the D-L, they decided to swap in a newer prime mover, since it would be less work and wind up being more reliable. I *think* it may be one of the ones from the MRS-1's but I'm not sure.

3) The 1554 has dual control stands. One has been removed, but we are saving it for possible future reinstallation if the loco becomes a static display piece after its career on the D-L.

4) The wiring was a total nightmare, since the CNJ didn't remove old wiring when they removed equipment or added new stuff. The low voltage stuff will be all replaced by newer wire.

5) I don't know if the loco will be ready for the convention- there were a lot more problems than anyone anticipated after a visual inspection. This unit is probably in the best place it can be- many kudos to Don and the D-L shop forces for the incredible amount of work that they are doing to this old girl.

Walter
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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:52 am 

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The crane is a 150 ton American which was purchased from the Canadian Pacific. I believe it was used utilized as a back up wreck crane in either Leithbridge or Calgary before it came to the DL. The crane was moved to Scranton by the CP, in revenue freight trains.


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:39 pm 

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It's great to see work being done to 1554.. when I last saw her in Jim Thorpe in October of '08 she sure did look a mess. I hope to see her running soon, and I'm very curious to how much money will go in to 1554 when it's all said and done.


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:14 pm 

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To answer a few questions:

1) The original 244 was/is trash. It was taken apart year ago and left open to the elements.

2) Was equipped with dual controls. Number 2 stand (short hood forward) was disabled years ago and was in sad shape. To keep all the RS3s the same, we decided to keep the main control stand in use. (Long hood forward)

3) 24RL brake system was junk. I decided to change it to 26NL on account works better, cheaper to change, less parts to change.

4) All the plumbing was junk...along with every other componet on the locomotive.

5) The DL wreck crane is 150 ton, not 200 ton.

Best Regards, don


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:35 am 

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1554 has had the new engine and other parts installed and has been sucessfully test run this week without the hood in place. Meanwhile the hood is being prepared for a new coat of CNJ green paint.
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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:25 pm 
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Is he just power washing all the old paint off? The hood does look solid though with no major rust damage. This should be a sharp engine when done, don't know of too many CNJ engines left.

Now to just entice these guys to come up North a bit and redo the RS 3 in my avatar! ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:54 pm 

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I have a Question?
Can the Main Gen and Auxiliary Generater and Ampidyne Exciter
fit in a RS2?
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Owen S. Paulsen Post subject: RS-2 can you take a Main Gen Belt and Convert to a Main GenPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:51 pm


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I am a member the Pacific Southwest Railway Museum (dba San Diego Railroad
Museum).
We have a RS-2 # 2098 http://www.psrm.org/roster/diesel/d-2098/index.html
The 244 Engine 1500 HP is to replace becauce 12 year ago, we overheat block.
The is 244 Engine 1600 HP from a MRS-1 (RSX-4).

The second in the Main Gen and the Amplidyne Exciter on top of the Main Gen.
The Main Gen has a 50,000 Ohm ground in the Armature an the Amplidyne has a bad bear.

The Main Gen GT-564-B (Belt drive in the old system).
The Auxiliary Generator 5GY24A2 12 KW 75 Volt (Belt drive in the old system).
The Amplidyne Exciter 5AM807A3 (Belt drive in the old system).
Replace with:
The Main Gen 5GT581A1 (Gear drive).The Auxiliary Generator 5GY27A3
(Gear drive).The Ampidyne Exciter 5AM808A3 (Gear drive).

The electrical is the same.
But the distant from a from the cab wall an the 5GY27A3 an 5AM808A3 to the car body in the unit to allow the fit ?

Who know the answer? The distant from the Engine were tie to Main Gen and the back wall of the RS-2.
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/manual/alco-em-01.pdf
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/manual/alco-em-03.pdf
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/manual/alco-em-04.pdf
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiag ... &sz=sm&fr=
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiag ... e&sz=sm&fr

http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/Diesels/as-15m.pdf
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/Diesels ... as-16m.pdf


Thank you

Stan Paulsen


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:05 pm 

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557,

You might be surprised by the number of CNJ locomotives still with us. I count at least 23.

There are 3 passenger GP-7's and RS-3 #1554 in preservation plus the boxcab that started it all, #1000.

At least one other CNJ RS-3 exists, though it has been "DeWitted." There is an SW-1 at RMDI awaiting an angel.

At least one SD40 is still on the road (rebuilt to SD-40-2 specs) and the GP40P's remain in service on NJ Transit (also rebuilt).

And, of course, there are the two steam survivors.

Many CNJ cabooses are still with us, along with a large amount of the passenger fleet, with many carrying smiling faces on tourist lines coast to coast.


Rob

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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:35 pm 

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Are either of the Bayonne Bridge disaster Geeps still in existence?

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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:10 pm 

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Not to anyone's knowledge.


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:26 pm 
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robertjohndavis wrote:
557,

You might be surprised by the number of CNJ locomotives still with us. I count at least 23.

There are 3 passenger GP-7's and RS-3 #1554 in preservation plus the boxcab that started it all, #1000.

At least one other CNJ RS-3 exists, though it has been "DeWitted." There is an SW-1 at RMDI awaiting an angel.

At least one SD40 is still on the road (rebuilt to SD-40-2 specs) and the GP40P's remain in service on NJ Transit (also rebuilt).

And, of course, there are the two steam survivors.

Many CNJ cabooses are still with us, along with a large amount of the passenger fleet, with many carrying smiling faces on tourist lines coast to coast.


Rob


Thanks for the info Rob.

When did the CNJ go to the red scheme with the white stripes and outline of the Statue of Liberty? The first model train engine I owned was a CNJ GP9 in the red/white scheme, a Lionel MPC era piece from 1975 or 76.


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:46 pm 

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If I may jump in here, it was January of 1972 I believe. There are a few photos out there of the Red Baron scheme in places like Jim Thorpe and Ashley, but not many.. The 1524 and one or two RS3's were red before the retrenchment from PA on 4/1/72, that's about it.

-Micah


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:51 pm 

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Add to that list an ex-CNJ SW-7 no. 1098, owned by the North Shore RR via Conrail, recently offered for sale on Railswap.org. Its Conrail number was 8868, if I recall correctly, and its last North Shore number was 446.


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:20 pm 

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That would be CNJ 1087, NSHR 430.

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/emd_sw7_430.htm

-Micah


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 Post subject: Re: Status report of rebuild of CNJ RS3 #1554
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:46 am 

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Sorry about the number confusion on the CNJ SW-7. I was relying on memory, which is increasingly shaky, especially after more than 15 years.


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